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Ford is moving forward with its $3 billion EV battery plant in Michigan despite political pushback and the potential loss of key U.S. tax credits that make the project financially viable.

Ford's argument is that by building batteries using technology licensed from China's leading battery producer, CATL, it is helping to re-shore important manufacturing expertise that was long ago ceded to China. [...] "LFP batteries are produced all around Europe, and the rest of the world," said Lisa Drake, Ford's vice president of technology platform programs and EV systems. "How can we compete if we don't have this technology? Somebody has to take the lead to do this," she said, adding that it will lead to homegrown innovation and the seeding of a domestic supply base. "I'm convinced this is the right thing to do for the United States," she said.

Drake said the tax subsidies are even more important in the face of slower-than-expected EV demand. "When EV adoption slowed, it just became a huge headwind," she said. "The [production tax credit] allows us to keep on this path, and to keep going." "We don't want to back off on scaling, hiring or training in an industry we need to be competitive in the future," she said. "It would be a shame to build these facilities and then have to scale back on the most important part of it, which is the people. These are 1,700 jobs. They don't come along very often."

Consumer tax credits for EV purchases get the most attention, but for manufacturers, the far more lucrative incentives come in the form of production tax credits. Companies could receive a tax credit of $35 per kilowatt-hour for each U.S.-made cell, and another $10 per kilowatt-hour for each battery pack. With an annual production capacity of 20 GWh, Ford's battery plant could potentially receive a $900 million tax credit, offsetting almost one-third of its investment. [...] The Republican-controlled Senate could vote as early as Wednesday on a budget bill that would rewrite language around EV tax credits. A House version of the bill passed last month effectively killed the production tax credits for manufacturers by severely tightening the eligibility requirements. It also specifically prohibited credits for batteries made in the U.S. under a Chinese licensing agreement -- a direct hit on Ford.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I've never been one for brand loyalty, but my grandparents were all about Fords. I drive one now but that's only because I went to buy a Camry Hybrid but someone bought the last one off the lot right before I got there; the Fusion Hybrid I ended up buying was basically a consolation prize, but it's been the most reliable car I've ever owned.

That said, I absolutely respect Ford for moving ahead with this and the forward thinking they're showing, especially in the face of the current political climate. Will definitely keep that in mind when I'm ready to retire my hybrid and upgrade to an EV.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I won't proclaim to know much about the last auto bailout but i know Ford paid what they owed back early iirc. Never had a Ford except a used and abused Ranger but it got the job done.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Never had a Ford except a used and abused Ranger but it got the job done.

Drove one of those for years, and I miss it terribly (well, not for commuting, but for having on hand to haul stuff from Lowe's lol). Sadly, the frame rusted out where the leaf springs attach and couldn't feasibly fix it.

[–] TheodorAlforno@feddit.org 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How is Ford's management perceived in the USA? Here on Europe they fucked up terribly.

I live in Cologne, Germany where their European headquarters and major plants are located. They completely missed EV development. Currently they stopped producing their best selling cars like the Ford Fiesta. The only EVs they build here are using VWs MEB platform and are selling at a higher price than VWs corresponding models.

They massively cut down on jobs and seem to be clueless about their future. They have been a major employer since the 1930s here and people are panicking about the loss of Ford altogether. They already shut down plants all over Europe.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Don't have much insight myself. They did pare down their offerings to big trucks, the Mustang, and crossovers (basically killed off all their sedans) which I wasn't happy about, but they do seem to be thinking ahead and leaning into EVs, so respect there. Unsure how much of that is in-house developed versus licensing from others (VW, Toyota, etc).

I do know they do/did a lot of cross-licensing of tech with Toyota; I was a little wary of buying the Fusion Hybrid when I had already done extensive research on the Camry Hybrid I originally set out to buy, but it turns out they share most of the same drivetrain on the EV portions.

From what I gather, they do seem to realize EVs are the future. Just wish they had some less gargantuan / more affordable options than the F-150 lighting and Mustang Mach-E. A Fiesta EV would be fantastic, for example.

My hope is that once they've got production for batteries, their offerings will expand since the batteries are one of the most expensive components.

My only regret was not spending the extra $1,200 to get the plug-in Fusion Hybrid. At the time, I didn't have anywhere to charge it, so it didn't make sense. If only I'd known I'd be buying a house a year and a half later.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz -1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The subsidies are ass backwards. They should go to infrastructure and end consumers if we really want EV adoption. Instead it's going to pad ceos wallets.