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Useless. Time for the Social Democrats to form their own party.

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[–] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 43 points 5 hours ago (6 children)

Representative Mike Lawler, a New York Republican, wrote on X: "This is absurd on its face. The United States has not declared war since 1942 and has conducted over 125 different military actions since that time, including in Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Presidents of both parties have relied on Article II authority, as well as AUMFs [Authorizations for Use of Military Force], to conduct targeted strikes and have not been subject to impeachment. In 2011, Barack Obama conducted an 8 month campaign in Libya to topple Gaddafi."

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[–] notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world 68 points 6 hours ago (11 children)

Primary. Every. Single. One.

[–] rindo25@lemmy.world 21 points 5 hours ago (7 children)

a P.E.S.O. for president Taco's followers, good pitch

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

One taco? That'll be 128 PESOs.

Edit: that's about 6€ or $7.50 USD. These must be LA tacos.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

la tacos

Never had French tacos before, are we talking poutine french or France french?

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[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 49 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Put him in a bigger peach this time, so he can't get out

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 19 points 5 hours ago (2 children)
[–] LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

Donnie and the giant peachment

[–] maximumbird@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Are they trying to avoid JP Mandel becoming president?

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 57 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There is a new website tracking whether politicians will go on the record to be against bribery.

I wonder if they will note this?

https://www.broad-center.com/

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 38 points 6 hours ago

Traitors, every last one

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

Why people keep thinking the democrats will ever be more than passive bystanders to corruption and greed. They benefit regardless who's in charge as long as it's not left of them

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 35 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 229 points 8 hours ago (23 children)

Here is the full list of Democrats that voted to table the articles of impeachment.

Find yours, call them, and let them know they've failed to represent the people interests.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 71 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Ro Khanna doing his standard move of cycling back and forth between pretending to be a progressive and just being utterly spineless.

I truly hope "refused to impeach President Trump" becomes a purity test in the next primary. That's a lot of incumbents to kick to the curb, but with this vote it's well warranted.

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[–] SerotoninSwells@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Thank you. One of my representatives, Gabe Vasquez, is on the list and I messaged him. Funny that he put out a press release condemning the actions of bombing Iran but doesn't want to support impeachment. What a turd.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

And then send them out to pasture like Andrew Cuomo.

It can be done. Do it enough, and you'll have a party that actually represents the people.

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[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Don’t do this. Just primary them.

[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 28 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Do both, so they know why they lost.

[–] evenglow@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago

It's so other Democrats know why they lost. The message is for them but they won't get it until it starts happening.

[–] st3ph3n@midwest.social 16 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

God damn it. My local rep is one of those assholes.

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 90 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

But they impeached him before, so their stance is that he got better and is no longer a threat to democracy?

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 60 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They just don't feel the need to hide anymore. Most of your "Democrats" are just Republicans with a different paint job.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 29 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They are just Republicans that aren't comfortable rounding up minorities into camps. They are cool if Republicans want to do it, but they are afraid of being associated with it for now

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Also, the lobbies need their strawmen in both parties

[–] bluemellophone@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Their stance is Trump came out of his two impeachments politically stronger than he went into them, and unless 14 GOP Senators decide to switch their allegiance all of a sudden the act of impeachment is practically useless.

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Plus since the proceedings were guaranteed to fail (even setting aside the party votes, while Trump has committed many constitutional violations, this one is shared by several of his predecessors and was an especially stupid thing to hinge an impeachment vote on - doubly so because it's not technically a violation until 60 days have passed), all they'd accomplish is burning a substantial amount of political will (something the Democratic party is severely lacking in) to... accomplish nothing but making Donald even worse? He already attacks Democratic states that have shown relatively minor opposition; if their representatives supported impeachment then life could suddenly become a lot harder for their constituents. Unless you're an accelerationist it was a bad idea all around.

(I should note I don't support this rationale - cowardly appeasement has never worked - but I can understand it, at least in theory. I'm mostly pissed that they pulled this stunt on such a flimsy pretext when there were plenty of rock-solid justifications to base an impeachment on)

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 3 hours ago

He needs to be impeached for his flagrant violations of the Posse Commitatus act, but that was more than a week ago, so nobody remembers.

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[–] makyo@lemmy.world 20 points 6 hours ago

They should have done it on day one and continued every day to explain to the public why it is necessary and how he is corrupt and dangerously incompetent if he remains.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 161 points 9 hours ago (13 children)

Every politician over 50 besides Bernie needs to be 'retired'

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[–] Soup@lemmy.world 99 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Looks like there are 212 Democrat reps in the house, which puts it at a large majority which would rather “not cause a fuss” or whatever the fuck excuse they’re trying to bullshit this time.

Useless people. Worthless people.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

It's not about not wanting to cause a fuss. It's just a losing impeachment that people don't want to attach their names to, probably the weakest attempt so far because so many Democrat presidents have acted in the same way. Precedent isn't nothing.

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[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 108 points 9 hours ago (11 children)
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

I mean, an Impeachment trial without any possibility of removal seems pretty pointless, yeah. It takes 67 Senators to remove. The DNC with caucus have 47. They probably don't even have enough votes to pass a simple majority purely symbolic impeachment, much less removal from office.

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[–] sarcasticsunrise@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Cowards the lot of them. I'm sure as well having AOC at the forefront the majority of the useless Elissa Slotkin-style useless libs squashed this out of spite

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