I'd rather see a train, but this is still better than nothing
this post was submitted on 25 Jun 2025
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What’s the excuse now for running heavy Diesel busses through residential neighborhoods?
We're having more and more electric buses in our town. It's beautiful. They are so quiet. So much better for noise and air pollution.
The electric buses are pretty nice. Columbus, Ohio, USA has some from New Flyer, and they're a lot quieter than the deafening natural gas buses. The US has virtually no competition for bus makers though, so I'd be interested to experience some of the European or Chinese ones. Never going to happen here though...
The technology will eventually be available to every manufacturer. I think the main problem is Trump who does everything to prevent the switch to electric vehicles.
They sound like trains with the light whine as well, love them
Jealous here. Recently visited an area with major incentives for EV and cycling and it’s so refreshing. The air is cleaner.
Same as its always been "we are bribed by car manufacturers"
Performance in the winter
My city runs Yutong electric buses in the winter no problem, and this is in the nordics
My local bus travels a loop of about 20km and has a 15 min rest at the end. This bus has 700km range.
I don’t think winter performance is the issue, but perhaps for some areas. There would need to be investment in charging Iinfrastructure. This specific bus is inter-city, not local, so that’s also a major difference. However, efficiency of EV is generally a lot higher in city traffic than highway.
First, range is lower in the winter just due to temperatures - batteries just perform worse at low temperatures, but the main problem is heating the cabin - which in combustion engine uses waste heat, while in EV it discharges the battery
Again, bus loops are 3% of this machine’s range in best conditions. It would be a heck of a winter to be a critical issue, with 190kw recharge at either end of the loop.
For an intercity bus, still absolutely a concern.
gain, bus loops are 3% of this machine’s range in best conditions.
Bus would need to charge at every end of the loop - and building the infrastructure isn't cheap. The ideal solution would be if the bus could run on one charge throughout the day and then got charged overnight. 700km should be enough for that except during winter
Hmm, but how about curb weight. More kWh = more kilograms?
Not necessarily, it could be the energy density has been improved by 10% over the previous model, which was introduced in 2023. 10% improvement over 2 years is technically feasible.