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Anyone have, or know if this kind of data exists? I think it'd be really interesting. All this Draymond stuff has me thinking how often a dirty play actually leads to an injury/somebody having to miss games. Not that we should only measure/punish something by the outcome, but I think we way overblow and overreact to some things that are more provocative, unsportsmanlike, disrespectful than substantially harmful.

Is Dray *that* dirty or does it just stand out so much in this era of the NBA compared to the rough 'n rowdy days gone by?

And what's worse, kicking a dude in the spuds or making a play at one of his knees/ankles? Yes, Dray has both in his locker I know.

I'm a Liverpool fan and had to rationalize all this sort of stuff in the Luis Suarez era. It's wrong and really weird to bite someone during a game, but it's probably better than putting in a nasty tackle that takes their ACL. Of course, it's a false-choice, you don't have to do either. But I think we react more viscerally to the weird/deviant action than the tackle because it's "part of the game". Yet I think we'd all rather take the teeth marks than have a career jeopardized.

Curious on people's thoughts!

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[–] FrnklndaTurtle@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

just another metric Jokic will be number one in

[–] BestSlowbroEU@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

you would need to isolate a number of players you already class as dirty then analyse just their injury impacts. if you did it purely on injury time inflicted it would just be a load of unlucky, non-dirty players at the top.

either way, it would be dumb and a complete waste of time imho.

[–] Cold_Carpenter_1798@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

You don’t have to actually injure players to be a dirty player. Lots of nba injuries are freak accidents more than anything

[–] loving-father-69@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I feel like by your measurement Jay Crowder undercutting Hayward makes him the dirtiest player like ever.

Zaza fucking up Kawhi is probably up there too.

Not saying this is a good measurment but those are the examples that stand out.

[–] St_gracchus_babeuf@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

suarez did nothing wrong🇺🇾🔴

[–] Scary-Plantain@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Pat bev gotta be high on the list