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[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

See how reality is depressing ? I was hoping for shadowrunners and other punks to wage the war of corporations in the shadows and this is what we got instead ; lobbyists.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No matter who wins, we lose.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Microsoft is at least as shitty. They’re both horrible and I won’t shed a tear for Microsoft.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 year ago

Some competition in the cloud is still better than no competition.

[–] rah@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Amazon bankrolling industry lobbying against Microsoft Azure should surprise no one

And it doesn't, so why am I seeing this headline?

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Haha me and my on-premise cloud laughing.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

While that may be shady, if there's a point to be made here it has to be made. Microsoft is well-known for their anti-competitive lock-in practices. It's not surprising at all that they're pulling off the same with Azure and their rival paying to make that known isn't particularly problematic.

[–] danielbln@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think I smell toast. Who is known for and pulling off what?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry, I meant "Microsoft" when I said "Azure". Fixed now.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


These collectives argue Microsoft unfairly locks customers into Azure, or makes it difficult or too expensive to run its software in rival clouds – such as Amazon Web Services, or AWS – and thus the Windows maker should be taken to task by watchdogs and possibly even blocked from competing for government deals and other IT contracts.

Despite the insistence of these organizations that they operate independently, Bloomberg claims a review of tax records and business documents and interviews indicates "Amazon Web Services plays a direct role in shaping their efforts in ways that would boost the cloud giant."

"For AWS, trade associations provide an efficient way to engage with the community, gather feedback, and talk with a variety of stakeholders about the technologies, practices, and policies impacting our customers."

Kellogg declared that AWS is proud to support a variety of such groups – including the aforementioned Alliance for Digital Innovation, Cloud Infrastructure Service Providers in Europe, the Coalition for Fair Software Licensing, and dozens of other trade associations like the Computer & Communications Industry Association, Data Center Coalition, Information Technology Industry Council, Professional Services Council, and the US Chamber of Commerce.

Last year, for example, CNBC reported that Amazon and Google had funded an apparent grassroots movement of small business owners who opposed oversight of Big Tech.

It should be said, however, that there are times when quiet support for lobbying efforts that attack a dominant market rival may be necessary – to avoid retaliation, and to keep the focus on the merits of the proposed intervention, for instance.


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