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Carney caves on taxing digital giants and Trump's White House claims victory (i.ytimg.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by recursive_recursion@piefed.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

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[–] piskertariot@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If you are upset by this fact, you can support your local Canadian artists by viewing their work here, instead of on Netflix, Google, Meta:

https://www.nfb.ca/

[–] Idontopenenvelopes@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or he created a thing he could trade in exchange for concessions...

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you, I’ve been meaning to download this app and now i I have

[+] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

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[–] rImITywR@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

a surface-level “win” that doesn’t actually cost Canada anything.

Except for billions of dollars of tax revenue.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Which would be, in practice, very difficult to enforce. These companies excel in lowering overhead and avoiding taxes. The very fact that brands ike facebook and google are available in nearly every country should tell you the level of coercive power and wealth they actually have.

I'm not happy about it either, but it is entirely possible that this was a tactic or diversion.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

oh yes, the bending over and take it power move... awesome for any time trump throws a tantrum

[–] Sillyglow@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You seem to accuse a lot of people of bending over in your comment history and seem pretty keen on violence.

You’re not here for discussion. You’re here to bait. Get bent.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I keep calling for a general strike, how is that violence?

Also. no I'm not here for discussion because Amerigans let that stage lapse, the entire world is in terrible peril thanks to your collective selfishness and toxic individualism

if you think thoughts and prayers can get you out of this hole, keep at it and continue to deny your imminent fall into fascism

[–] Sillyglow@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It was never enforced since 2022. It was a diversion tactic.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

no, a delay in implementation is absolutely not the same as a never enforced tax

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was mad at first but on reflection I think you may be right, and hope this is subtle jiu-jitsu, so to speak. We'll see.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Carney sure seems like he's in a hurry to use any excuse to cut a tax. Letting Trump dictate Canada's internal policy is one hell of a win to give away.

[–] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca -5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Y'all are remembering that it's us Canadians that will be paying this tax, right? It's not going to affect any company's bottom line in the slightest.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What? The digital service tax was for the American corporations to pay.

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

And they're absolutely never going to raise prices for Canadians to compensate right?

[–] rImITywR@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What is the price to use Facebook?

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

What is the price to use Facebook?

Hundreds of ads being shoved in your face.

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

What they charge Canadian advertisers. That cost is then budgeted in the products and services.

Nothing is free.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

That wasn't the argument OP was making.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That foreign corporations would pay out of their Canadian sales.

Which would certainly cause them to increase the fees they charge their Canadian customers so they don't have to reduce their profits.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm well aware that's what they might do to offset their costs, but OP saying that the corporations us Canadians will have to pay the tax is plain wrong. They're probably conflating it with tariffs.

And sorry ‒ off topic question. I haven't lived in Canada in years, but do we really say "y'all" now? That's kinda weird.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

but do we really say "y'all" now? That's kinda weird.

Yes it's weird, it is another example of creeping American influence.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't agree, but even if I grant it do you feel great about a hostile foreign leader dictating your country's laws? The DST was finished legislation, legally passed by Canadian's elected representatives. And now it's gone. Because Trump says so.

[–] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Of all the things Carney could concede, this one is the least of my worries.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Canada's sovereignty means that little to you? Your elected representative just got overruled by a foreign leader.

[–] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah. Carney made a strategic decision to appease a toddler.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Between selling out Canada's sovereignty and the NATO target he's doing a lot of appeasing. I don't think he deserves all the grace you're giving him.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

We already know Trump's bluster isn't about the DST or illegal border crossing or fentynal or any of the other things he's been whining about.

It's about him throwing his (considerable) weight around and making himself feel more important.

And about finding new ways to scam his followers by showing off how super important he is.

[–] Sillyglow@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

Calm down. This was the same tactic sheinbaum uses every day. Manufactured chaos over a nothing tax that wasn’t even enforced for years.it was a throw away deal to distract Donald cuz he’s so dumb and easily distracted. ‘I won!’ Meanwhile the export market and Canada stocks took a sweet uptick. Donald is none the wiser as to why. He’s just running off to admire himself in the mirror again.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

We expected this. If he actually took on Big Tech, it would scare the hell out of Canadian big tech companies too, and kiss that corporate funding goodbye.

Still, it is disappointing.