Revisionist history. But until Burrow was drafted. Bengals o line was consistently talked about being bottom 5 year over year. Burrow just hid that shit better than Dalton. (Not really, 2 season ending injuries in 4 years get fucked).
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The NFL should just allow O-line and D-line players to be the only positions allowed, nay encouraged, to take roids.
While both their lines were/are bad, they occasionally hold the ball too long looking for plays.
Sacks are not just an OL stat
Burrow at this rate is going to make a run at Fran Tarkington's all time sacked record of 570. Likely though Russell Wilson will get there first. He currently has 512 with 30 so far this year.
2.84 sacks per game for Joe Burrow
2.09 sacks per game for Andrew Luck
2.02 sacks per game for Mac Jones
Luck wasn’t nearly as injury prone though. Cincy really needs to get this situated. Burrow has missed a full season in HS, FBS, and now 2x in the NFL but it’s the list of injuries that is crazy. He was injured twice during the SB run. Started the season injured and then finished off by this second major injury to the wrist on his throwing hand. If he keeps taking these beating he won’t live up to his potential let alone his contract.
Just curious, anyone got the average release times for Luck vs Burrow?
Luck was hit 352 times in the first 3 years of his career alone (per the ringer). Burrow/ been hit 178 times so far in his career. Easy to cherry pick stats
Helps that he missed so many games already in his short nfl career 🥸
I believe that's why he chose stats for Luck's first 3 years. Burrow has played an extra game each season and the stats he cited are for Burrow over 4 years. Burrow missed roughly half a season in 2020 and will again for 2023, which equates to roughly 3 full seasons.
Then there’s also the CRAZY idea that instead of making a gazillion dollars and being unable to walk at 35, QBs could settle for half a gazillion and the team could spend the money on All-Pro linemen.
Who was that guy for the Patriots a while back? I think it worked out okay for him…
Qbs sacks are pretty consistent regardless of team or oline. Meaning qbs drive their sacks alot more than people give them credit. Obviously a bad oline doesn't help and makes it worse but someone who doesn't take sacks won't take alot of them compared to a qb that takes a lot regardless of the quality of oline. That being said taking as many as those guys definitely is determental to the longevity of their career.
look all ill say is i remember the internet boys victory lapping on chase over sewell. interesting how it works out.
i have no dog in this fight, just an observation.
As great as Ja'Marr Chase is, not choosing Penei Sewell after Burrow knee got annihilated as a result of a poor OLine is probably going to haunt the Bengals for some time.
So you're saying that's it for Burrow? Retirement. He had a good run.
So many times it seems like when the QB's get their big contract, they start getting the crap beat out of themselves on the field. Guess it becomes harder to pay for quality lineman...
Sacks are a QB stat a lot of the time
Is this play style sustainable 🤔
Well one went to the superbowl... so there's that
Unlike in British comedy, the people doing the sacking have not been sacked.
Once again sacks are a qb stat
At what point does the Bengals' O-Line problems become a coaching problem rather than personnel problem?
What about his though
When it’s Sam howell sacks are a “qb stat” though.
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joe burrow simply holds onto the ball too long. granted, he was better last season, but in 2021 when they went to the super bowl he made his o-line look a lot worse than it was. he was one of the worst QBs at avoiding pressures-into-sacks.
It just points out that Andrew Luck ended up suffering a ruptured spleen and then retiring from football after a relatively brief career. Joe Burrow is starting to see injuries pile up now, and could suffer the same fate. We in Indy thought Luck was strong and physical and counted on him to be here for us as long as Manning was. We have not been the same since he left. Cincinnati is in the same boat, and Joe doesn't even appear as physical or as strong as Luck was, although mentally every bit as tough. Cincy needs to protect this guy like he is their grandma back there because he IS their franchise! Draft or trade for a#1 offensive line!
Welcome aboard the CTE Special.
OBJr sucks ass. Tried to tell them.
Sacks are a QB stat.
Reminds me of Matt Stafford while on Detroit
Luck ran more than Burrow has, though, which subjected him to worse hits from faster players
Remember when he told the Bengals to draft Chase?
If the Bengals drafted Sewell instead of Chase they don't get close to the SB in 2021.
However they win the 2022 SB.
WRs are the most over-valued thing in all of sports.
Looks like we have a new Captain in The War.
So many teams straight up slack on investing in an offensive line. Bitch about QB durability, baby the piss out of them, but don't pay for protection. These dudes aren't used to being blasted so often, they're more fragile than RBs and defensive players laying hit after hit. Teams know this but just don't seem to invest. He'll be lucky to last as long as Luck did. Luck might still be playing and be one of the all-time greatest by now if he didn't get trashed so much.
That Chase/Sewell graph just looks rough every year
I know Chase is good but he needs Burrow alive
He needs to move around in the pocket
RIP Joey B
Everyone was yelling to get him a line during year 1. Here we are 4 seasons later and has anything been done to address the line? Nope.
We revamped the whole line clown
Burrow also plays against pretty consistently top defenses 6 times a year.
Luck was a very tough QB but also knew how to find a throw when he was in trouble.
Burrow is very much a "I can probably dodge these two guys and make an even better throw" QB. He can do it a lot of the time, but he'll also take a lot more hits doing so.
Sam Howell coming for that record.
Get the dude and o-line asap or he'll be outta the NFL just as fast as luck if not faster.
What about the Texans first QB David Carr? What was his experience?
The important stat is how many head and neck injuries.
For anybody who is a causal and doesn’t know, our management tried to build a better o line. We’ve spent decent money and replaced nearly every person on the damn line. They’re better than the Super Bowl run, but still not that great though. Also burrow sometimes just doesn’t know how to throw the ball away and just takes a sack.
Some people just say shit without knowing anything. Talking about the ones who say we’re ruining burrow and shit like that when we’ve done everything we could do to help.
Really sucks that the teams that get these #1 prospects usually don't have a functional O Line to protect the guys.
Luck was smart IMO to get out while he was still somewhat sane - he is back studying at Stanford and is coaching high school football.
Bryce Young has been sacked 658 times in 8 games… smdh