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In the 1987-88 season Jordan averaged 35PPG while only attempting 0.6 3 pointers per game and only hitting 13% of them. These are the kind of numbers you could expect from a bigman (or Ben Simmons), not from a guard

Question is, how did he manage to score that many points pretty much only from 2 pointers, did teams not adjust to prevent him from driving like they do against Giannis? Young Jordan based on his numbers seemed to not be a threat from outside at all, how was so prolific while at the same time so one-dimensional? I must be missing something

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[–] Overall-Palpitation6@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Honestly, that's just how the game was played in the '80s. The 3-pointer wasn't really a fundamental part of anyone's game, apart from a few specialists, and was seen more as a novelty or a desperation "get out of jail" shot than a valid tactical tool.

[–] TELDON13@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Robert horry

[–] tilario@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

i suggest you watch his 63 point playoff game against the celtics: https://youtu.be/HYvJ37P_YiY?si=WfvAV76wOB29eWNK

dude was insane.

[–] TELDON13@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Instead of getting defensive and argumentative realize I was just saying there were other hall of fame players other than bill russell with 6 rings. Doesnt take away from MJ

[–] LordBaneoftheSith@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Bro there is literally a column on bbref, where you got these #s, that shows you how many 2pt field goals he attempted. What's so confusing here?

[–] TheJotun86@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Dude he was literally unstoppable

[–] jayz93j@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

OP is the definition of a nephew

[–] Neophyte_Gardener@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Lol always kills me when somebody thinks they know a players play style based on their stats.

[–] dlogan393@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

brother he is the G.O.A.T. the need for a three point shot is a recent development in the NBA

[–] MaSherm@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] Jailbrick3d@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

lmaooo. calling Jordan a one dimensional scorer is probably one of the worst takes on him I've heard

[–] ZandrickEllison@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think most younger fans remember Jordan (or highlights of Jordan) from the 90s when he had become more of a mid range guy. In the 80s he was just blowing by people with his athleticism like a better Dwade.

[–] Overall-Palpitation6@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Jordan also had the mid-range game in the '80s too (pretty much the bread and butter of most top wing and guard scorers in the '70s and '80s), he just leaned on it more heavily in the '90s as his athleticism lessened by his early 30s and the time of the 2nd comeback.

[–] porncollecter69@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I wish there was film that doesn’t look like Japanese porn of his early dominance. That’s why last dance was so good for me, they had quality footage.

[–] BruceBrownMVP@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

You are definitely missing something...

MJ is at absolute worst the 3rd best midrange shooter ever.

I've personally got him number 1, add that to his S tier slashing and yea... 35 ppg

[–] Plastic_Blood1782@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

He scored a lot of transition buckets, a lot of 2 point fadeaways and pull up jumpers, and a lot of drives where he finished near the basket with contorted body positions that I wouldn't really classify as layups.

Here's his 9th game of his career where he put up 45 points.

https://youtu.be/F1O4zXgJYJU?si=cVlvL6bDA2DEpJTO

[–] herseyhawkins33@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Young Jordan was just that good of an athlete and his agility at the rim was unparalleled. By 88 he absolutely had a midrange game tho. Just not as methodical as later in his career.

[–] hrryyss@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

One-dimensional? WTF are you on? Did you ever watch him play?

[–] viewspodcast@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wait... Isn't the fact that he can score 35/game without threes a testament to how much of a threat he was?

[–] mankls3@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

yes, and if he did shoot threes he'd prob be past 40 ppg

[–] GilbertArenas0000@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

lebron is top 5 all time. MJ, Kareem, Magic, Kobe, Lebron.

[–] Davin998@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Oh brother this guy stinks

[–] Plastic-Dot-9278@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The defensive scheme that teams use against Giannis today was banned in the 90s.

[–] Altierigualtieri@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

And hilariously, the defensive scheme they used against Jordan- handcheck and tackle him everytime he drives - is now illegal

[–] rick_32@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It was a different time... you could only double team the player with the ball, defenders had to stay glued to their man otherwise it would be illegal defense even if that player was a bad shooter or whatever. There was no help AR the nail or zoning up a side or even just plain zone.

So it was much easier to isolate a player 1 on 1.

Also Jordan got a very favorable whistle

[–] DoMogo1984@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

No more than the whole lakers team….

[–] rick_32@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

24.4 shots per game & 10.5 free throws... if you just go 50/70 you're getting almost 32 ppg so 35 isnt a big stretch 🤷🏾

[–] Ok_Hornet_714@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

And Jordan was a very good free throw shooter (career 83.5%) too

[–] Panzer_I@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

There’s an area between the three point line and the paint called the midrange. You’re allowed to score there.

[–] maybeacademicweapon@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

How is this guy real

[–] Le4-6Mafia@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Jordan being a 1 of 1 athlete and all time great + illegal defense rules = 35 PPG no 3s needed

[–] NotoriousZog@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Go back to Fall Guys my man

[–] cyrnios@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have a friend that says if you place Jordan in his prime into today’s game, he’d be the 2nd or 3rd best player in the league

[–] knicksunderpants@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Your friend is an idiot.

[–] supes1@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Lots of good answers here, but also remember the NBA game was fundamentally different back then with a lot fewer 3s shot overall.

The league leader in 3s attempted per game that year was Michael Adams at 4.6 attempts. Last year that would have ranked ~80th in the league.

3s just were not a big part of an NBA offense back then.