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Hello sailors,

as a long time FireTV stick un-enjoyer, I finally decided that the time has come to get rid of this piece of crap I was baited into buying because of the low price. The number of streaming services keeps increasing (splitting content among different servives) and each and every one of them is demanding for an increasing amount of money for a monthly subscription; "buy this movie only" services dont actually give you shi except for the right to stream it for as long as it stays in their library, even though af course you pay 13,99 as if it was a physical copy of a movie. In addition to that, the FireTV is now completely filled with ads. I am tired of this shitty customer treatment, im sailing.

I am not experienced into local media-sharing and management, so I am looking for advice... What's my best move to replace it?

I thought a good idea would be to buy an unexpensive MiniPC that i can put behind the TV? Is that overkill? But what OS would i put into it? A linux distro I am guessing or Android TV? Is there a way I can interact with it using a remote? Are there instead "better" FireTV sticks (no ads and let users install and watch what they want)?

Gimme advice or share your secret setups please :)

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[–] chagall@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Before you throw it away, you can sideload Kodi onto it, and stream local content, IPTV, and other (not super legal) entertainment sites.

[–] Nobilmantis@feddit.it 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That seems like a good piece of advice, maybe I will use this temporarily while I figure if I want to get a dedicated device.

[–] pelletbucket@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

a fire stick is just an Android TV device with Amazon branding. anything else that you buy is also going to be an Android TV device

[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social -1 points 10 months ago

Stuff is legal as long as you aren't getting caught.

[–] dzervas@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Why is nobody talking about stremio? The user interface and experience is very close to netflix (better at times) but it plays torrents instead.

If you pair it with a real-debrid subscription after you first try it solo it takes it to the next level.

It’s just amazing

And you don’t have to buy anything. Stremio can be installed on your firetv stick

EDIT: forgot to mention that you need the torrentio or torrrentio lite add on for stremio.

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

real-debrid subscription

uh, what's that? honest query

[–] webuge@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Real-debrid is like a "cache" for torrents. Instead the torrent been streaming direct to your device, it will be downloaded to the real debrid server, and then streaming it from real-debrid to you. The good thing is that if you start a torrent that is already in the real-debrid it will start streaming instantly. It is payed but I think it is totally worth.

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

TYVM for the details!

[–] dzervas@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

it just downloads the torrents in real time for you and gives you a single link. It removes all the torrent quirks - except of course of the fact that you need seeders and the download speed depends on them.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 18 points 10 months ago

FireTV stick, yo mama's so fat, she brought a spoon to the Super Bowl.

[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Intel NUC for $50 from eBay and smarthomebeginner was all I needed for this

[–] vildis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Look into Jellyfin and the *arr suite for automating downloads. If this seems too complicated for now, just get a cheap 1 TB external SSD, a VPN (check out mullvad), a torrent client (i suggest qBittorrent or Transmission), bind the torrent client to the VPN to prevent leaks and off you go!

The simpler method has some drawbacks, not all TV's support all codecs and formats, you have to move the external drive from your computer to your TV for example. Getting Jellyfin setup will give you a more streaming service type of experience and if someone else than you might want to watch something, start with Jellyfin.

If the Jellyfin experience is horrible and you just really wanna watch a movie to relax on a saturday, maybe take a look at Plex.

If you already have the MiniPC just lying around then great, just use that! If you don't have it, you can also host Jellyfin + the *arr suite on your PC (unsure about Windows compatibility) and start them when needed or have them run in the background when your computer starts.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago

I'm still looking for a justification of the arr suite. It's not hard to find files and I like being able to choose.

I also still need to figure out how to use docker to sandbox my qbit+ VPN.

[–] pelletbucket@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

keep the fire stick and install Plex on it. my Plex servers are about 20tb and it's 90% of what I use my fire stick for

[–] Funkymatt@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you're looking for a decent setup but maybe not the cheapest- Nvidia shield with an external hard drive would work very well.

You could always build or buy a nas and just run Plex as an app through either your current fire stick or get a cheap Roku stick (although now you're back in the same ad garden for a player but Roku is minimally invasive imo- especially with a pi-hole for dns)

[–] Nobilmantis@feddit.it 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mhhhh the Nvidia shield does not really seems like a bad idea... Its price is actually not that bad (even though you need the Pro to have USB ports so i can plug an hard drive into it).

You say that plex on my current FireTv can see and play media from a NAS/other server in the local network?

[–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Once you get Plex setup you can have all your videos, photos, and music with you wherever you are. You can stream via the Plex app on the firestick, Chromecast to any supported device with the help of your phone, or download media for offline viewing from your phone via a USB to HDMI adapter. The firestick Plex app is basically just a client, but the Plex app on an nvidia shield can additionally act as a server whose library resides on a USB drive connected directly to the shield or any samba/windows share the shield can see on your network.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago

Has ads by default by you can side load an ad free interface easily.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Raspberry Pi 5 + Debian + KDE bigscreen

[–] benedolt@feddit.de 3 points 10 months ago

Is KDE bigscreen usable now? Last time I checked it was just a concept that was super difficult to install.

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Is there a way I can interact with it using a remote?

I was surprised at the number of remotes that sell on AliExpress that have an actual keyboard on the back of it, covered with a plastic seal, that sell for dirt cheap like $5, and are meant to be used (and recognized as by the OS) as an actual keyboard.

So, yes, regarding this option, is an actual minipc a solution and can I interact with it properly, yes, you sure can ☺️.

Oh, and some even had a little touchpad on the front 😂. So cute 😂.

[–] PixeIOrange@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I suggest Air mouses. Just like a wii controller.

Edit: This for example. Rudimentary IR TV remote + air mouse on the front, keyboard on the back. Also nice for servers or other Raspberry applications.

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 3 points 10 months ago

Yep, exactly like that on AliExpress 👍 (guess they stole the design and idea 😂... great, at least we can get them for next to nothing 😂). I just called them keyboards cuz they recognize as a keyboard in the OS 😂.

[–] bless@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Don't get rid of it, install Kodi and/or Plex on it

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I just installed SmartTubeNext on mine for ad free youtube and it turns out I can pair it with and cast from YouTube Revanced on my tablet, and it carries over all the skips for SponsorBlock as well. Don’t even have to be logged in to SmartTube, works fine with the default anon view. You don’t even have to keep them connected. Once SmartTube receives a playlist, you can disconnect the cast and SponsorBlock sections still work.

https://troypoint.com/smarttube/

At this point all I have on it is Kodi, Twitch, SmartTubeNext, the free Roku app for old tv series, and RetroArch for pre-N64 games.(edit: it may very well play n64 games etc as well, it’s more an issue of storage space for me. My Kodi library is pretty big.)

Pair it with a pihole and Twitch is also ad free.

[–] REM0VED@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Netgear router + 2tb thumb drive + makeMKV 👍🏼

[–] TheaoneAndOnly27@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Holy shit. A 2tb thumb drive? I didn't know those existed.

[–] feecoomeeq@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

I have a 2,5' 1tb hdd connected to my router and Kodi on Xbox and Firetv. You only need some website to download content from to your hdd.

[–] assplode@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

Lots of great info here, commenting so I remember this thread!