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The article is about Kyutai, a French AI lab with an objective to compete with chatgpt and others with full open source (research papers, models, and training data).

They are aiming to also include the capability to use sound, image, etc... (according to this article (French) https://www.clubic.com/actualite-509350-intelligence-artificielle-xavier-niel-free-et-l-ancien-pdg-de-google-lancent-kyutai-un-concurrent-europeen-a-openai.html )

The post article also talks about some French context.

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[–] LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] kadotux@sopuli.xyz 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Which is more than -$1.00.

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe they can buy... three nVidia GPUs and electricity to run them!

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

In that case, I'll let them get a discount on the one I'm selling... Now only $100m.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 7 points 11 months ago

That's thousands of salaries for a year, that's not too bad for an unknown company. More than enough to produce something that can attract more funding. Many startups became successful with less funding.

[–] voluble@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

$330m is not nothing. But, with a funding split between a telecom CEO, and a shipping & logistics CEO - person has to wonder what sort of direction & tuning the team might be encouraged to explore. How will they stack up against existing & proven open source non-profits with impressive releases like EleutherAI?

These open source projects are neat, in that they give the average person the opportunity to peek under the hood of an LLM that they'd never be able to run on consumer level hardware. There are some interesting things to find, especially in the dataset snapshots that Eleuther made available.

In general, kind of cool to see France being on the cutting edge of these things. And I think it's worth saluting any project that moves to decentralize power from states and megacorps, who seal wonderful, powerful things in black boxes.

[–] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Makes sense it'd be the French again. They pioneered the internet after all.

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[–] cyd@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Ideally, they'd just blow the entire $330M training an LLM, and release the weights. In reality, much of that money will probably go into paying salaries, various smaller research projects, etc.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago

Good luck training an LLM without any developer.

[–] Mahlzeit@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ideally, they wouldn't be paying salaries? What?

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[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

I hope they actually do, unlike "Open"AI

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


This morning at Scaleway’s ai-PULSE conference, French billionaire and Iliad CEO Xavier Niel gave some extra details about his plans for an AI research lab based in Paris.

Six men took the stage this morning to talk about their previous work and what they have in mind for the research lab — Patrick Perez, Edouard Grave, Hervé Jegou, Laurent Mazaré, Neil Zeghidour and Alexandre Defossez.

Kyutai has also put together a team of scientific advisors who are well-known AI researchers — Yejin Choi, Yann LeCun and Bernhard Schölkopf.

“When it comes to the timeline, I don’t think our aim is necessarily to go as fast as Mistral, because our ambition is to provide a scientific purpose, an understanding and a code base to explain the results,” Defossez said at the press conference.

Macron also used this opportunity to define and defend France’s position on Europe’s AI Act, saying that use cases should be regulated, not model makers.

It’s not a question of defining good models, but we need to ensure that the services made available to our citizens are safe for them, for other economic players and for our democracy,” Macron said.


The original article contains 905 words, the summary contains 192 words. Saved 79%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

with translation as well! good bot!

[–] Tibert@jlai.lu 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The article is English. Only the one in the post text for additional info is French.

[–] jack@monero.town 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Please put a space between the link and parenthesis so the link doesn't break

[–] Tibert@jlai.lu 2 points 11 months ago

Sry did it. The apps I use seem to be smart enough to stop at html.

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

Smart. Even Google knows that they can't compete with open source models since open source development of AI models is much more optimized and a compliance serving model can't catch up with it.

So an open source model is their best way to leapfrog these giants.

[–] RAM@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 11 months ago
[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

so they have enough money to train one model

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It seems like their goal is not to train new LLMs, but to actually do scientific research. Large language models are such a tiny part of the whole machine learning and AI field that it's ridiculous the amount of attention they get from mass media. But people do like their stupid chatbots.

[–] nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

I would be happy to see the real story behind every kind of this tech news. You know we’re the real money will be.

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