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Before starting tasks, developers forecast that allowing AI will reduce completion time by 24%. After completing the study, developers estimate that allowing AI reduced completion time by 20%. Surprisingly, we find that allowing AI actually increases completion time by 19%

N = 16

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[–] Gustephan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Study (N=16) finds absolutely nothing because their sample size is too small to meaningfully substantiate any conclusion.

[–] mspencer712@programming.dev 23 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] Feyd@programming.dev 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You’re acting like this is a gotcha when it’s actually probably the most rigorous study of AI tool productivity change to date.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

It definitely is... But it's possible to be the most rigorous study and also not really prove anything. Proving this sort of stuff is ridiculously hard and expensive. We don't have proofs for even the most obvious things in programming, like that comments and good variable naming help comprehension. Sometimes studies even find the opposite.

[–] taco@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The more important detail is that it's 16 experienced developers. If there's going to be an advantage with AI development tools, it's going to most likely be seen with junior devs with a much wider gap between current and peak performance. This was my first thought reading the article, and it's called out in the study.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

I don't think that's true. In fact most people say the opposite - AI doesn't help junior devs because they can't recognise when it's bullshitting. I don't really believe that either - that's just ego talking. I expect it helps people of all experience levels fairly equally, but only with tasks that are relatively simple. It's not like senior engineers never do those though.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That's my issue with AI. I go to AI after my skills, the documentation and google failed me. Then I go to ChatGPT to get lied to, because ChatGPT doesn't know either.

And almost without fail, AI doesn't help me there.

The only thing where AI helps is AI autocomplete in die IDE, if I am doing something very simple and monotonous, then it helps me to sometimes reduce my typing speed a little bit compared to regular autocomplete.

But typing time is like 0.5% of the time I spend developing stuff.

[–] jay@beehaw.org 3 points 2 days ago

Haha yes, I should have made that clear, thanks

[–] Kissaki@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] jay@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

~~Oh, thanks! I thought Lemmy would warn me if I tried to submit a duplicate URL.~~

Oh nevermind, that one looks like it was posted after mine. (It has a higher ID, too.)

[–] Kissaki@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's not a duplicate URL. You posted an image, they posted a link to the study.

I mainly wanted to give the additional context and discussion, more so than say "has already posted".

I assume I must have compared a modified date or sth, dunno. Misled by it being shown further down in my feed.