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How are people sending emails from their self hosted apps? I Thought MailSender would be good but i guess not. Im about to try SendPulse now. Why isnt there a service that doesnt care what you do with your emails as long as you only sending max a few emails a day?

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[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just setup a gmail account, just gotta turn on legacy smtp

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[–] adiyasl@alien.top 3 points 2 years ago

I use mailgun. They give 1000 emails for free monthly which is plenty for me.

[–] legrenabeach@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago

Postfix installed on the server itself. My apps don't send many emails, why go through the complication and cost of hosting email externally?

[–] scubanarc@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago

Docker Mail Server

All you need is a static IP address, a DNS record, a PTR record, an SPF record, and a DKIM record. See, it's simple, right?

[–] MrGG@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Why isnt there a service that doesnt care what you do with your emails as long as you only sending max a few emails a day?

Because it would be overrun with phishing abuse in a matter of minutes?

[–] Powerstream@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago

Started using Purelymail. Easy setup with my multiple domains. Really cheap.

[–] Lynx323@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago
[–] smnhdy@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] wally40@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Same, set up a separate email that I use exclusively for services. Did this as if the app password is hacked, they have access to an account with nothing but notifications.

[–] pigers1986@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago

gmail with separate account than primary one

[–] JM-Lemmi@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago

AWS SES or Hetzner (where my mail id also hosted)

[–] SysAdmin-Universe@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Amazon SES. My monthly bills are between 3 and 8 cents per month

[–] unixbox911@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm noob here, how to setup spam filters while trying to receive emails

[–] Perpetual_Nuisance@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

First set up spam filters, then send emails. Both at the same time isn't very convenient.

[–] anon108@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

How did you guys get approved on Amazon SES? My application was instantly rejected when I specified it for outbound emails.

[–] GNUGradyn@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago

Send grid has no approval process and will give you 100/day for free

[–] dumbasPL@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago

Guys, we are on r/selfhosted, and all the top replies are recommending cloud services? The actual fuck. I personally host my own postal server and it works great.

[–] the-last-user@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

https://mail.baby/

Very cheap and reliable.

[–] anachronisdev@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A bit overkill but mxroute. Complete own Mail-environment for sending and receiving.

About 50.- a year I think it was

[–] capecodcarl@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Check for Black Friday deals at mxroute. I signed up last year for $10/year.

[–] madrascafe@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] lighthawk16@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Selfhosted Mailcow.

[–] primevaldark@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use Fastmail with a specific domain and/or aliases to separate it easily by rules as needed. But I do pay for Fastmail and only send emails to myself so may or may not be applicable to you.

[–] thesmiddy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I do the same. I like how each application gets its own password and only gets the permissions I want to give it (usually just smtp)

[–] ImissHurley@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The SMTP relay that comes with my M365 tenant.

[–] ggezboye@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I have secondary gmail account just for that.

[–] ItzGonzoHD@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] hunterhulk@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

i personally found SendGrid easy to setup and cost effective

[–] crazedizzled@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

A VPS with Mailcow.

[–] pcs3rd@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I pay $7 for a noreply user in my business starter Google workspace.

[–] Stone_Monarch@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I use fastmail. Since I'm already paying for it as my normal email service, I started using it as my incomming and outgoing email provider for seldhosted apps. Works fine, no complaints.

[–] FetAkhenaten@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] scarf3@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Gmail with app specific password + Postfix docker container loganmarchione/docker-postfixrelay. I configure gmail in one spot (the container) and everything else connects to that container to relay out. You can easily limit destination email addresses with the container as well, so you don’t have to worry about an app going rogue.

[–] DLSantini@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Dedicated Gmail account.

[–] aadoop6@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Are there any third party services that don't require phone numbers for sign-ups?

[–] machstem@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

mxroute

they have a bf sale right now

[–] bruderbarnabas@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] machstem@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

mxroute?

Their sale in on their site

[–] Insomniac24x7@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Mailrise + pushover

[–] timo_hzbs@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] ikbosh@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Interesting to not have seen PostMark mentioned

[–] CaffeinatedTech@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I was using mailgun, but they recently fucked me, so I switched everything to Brevo.

[–] AfternoonPenalty@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I got a Black Friday special at MXRoute a few years ago - $15 for the year.

Host whatever domains you want then for email.

Might get a bargain again this year if they do Black Fridays

[–] montyny69@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I use duocircle.com, allows.dkim and spf. 1,000 per month for free. Gives a warning at 800 and 900 - helpful when I have a process run a little amok.

[–] idrac1966@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Seconding everyone suggesting to just use a Gmail account.

But to add to that, I created a small VM running Postfix that is an open relay that sends mail via that Gmail account. This way, I can use the Postfix VM as the SMTP server for all the other services and I don't have to remember and sprinkle that Gmail password all over the place.

Postfix's main.cf can be secured by configuring it to route all mail through that Gmail account, overwrite the 'from' address, and restrict the 'to' field to send only to myself and no other recipients. Then it doesn't matter what the 'from' of the various self-hosted services are, Postfix transforms the headers into something appropriate and sends it to Gmail to be delivered.

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