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Most people seem to be giving their ranks on MVP voting citing only QBs. It’s hard to imagine that just a title over 10 years ago Brees’ 46 TDs wasn’t enough to win MVP.

I’m curious as to who the real MVP candidates are. QB production is down so I’m really gearing towards awarding it to a defensive player like Myles Garrett. I know some people have also cited CMC and Hill.

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[–] sleepyguy-@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Its sucks that Drew never won an MVP. For all of his amazing seasons they just happened to coincide with someone else’s equally if not more amazing season.

[–] ShipMaker24@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Got_yayo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Elasticpuffin@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

CMC. Just based on TDs or Puka. Just insane numbers for some no QB offensive guys.

[–] ejroberts42@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Tyreek if he gets to 2000 yards. I wouldn’t mind seeing Garrett win, having a defensive player win MVP would be awesome

[–] RogueTiger23@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Myles Garrett. Honestly, he’s been absolutely brilliant this season and is the leader of a loaded defense that will most likely carry the team to the playoffs.

As a Texans fan, I want Stroud to be the MVP if this team wins the division and goes to the playoffs. We were expected to be a top 10 pick again this season and what he’s done this season is incredible. Respect to Hurts, but Stroud has had a better season.

[–] Imaginary-Double2612@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

QBs are almost always MVP because they are the MVP. There is no team that is a RB away from being a contender. No team thats a WR away. No team thats a linebacker or a DL away. In order for anyone other than a QB to get it they have to do be truly special and absolutely invaluable to their team. If there was a year for a non QB to get it i think this season is their best bet. But this “best QB award” talk is getting tiring.

[–] NotActuallyAnExpert_@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Jason Kelce. DO IT

[–] anonymousscroller9@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If tyreek gets 2000 him.

[–] Walks_with_Chaos@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It’ll be a QB. And it should go to a QB.

Nearly every team would be much less good without their starting QB (aside from teams who have shit QBs already)

[–] Nice__Spice@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

You know they’ll give it to a Qb and create the narrative for it.

[–] SaMemeM@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

CeeDee Lamb is slowly but surely making his case. Not that it matters, considering it will be a QB.

[–] Dreadsbo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Tyreek Hill

[–] youtube_and_chill@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The real MVP is a QB...

[–] GhostMug@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It should be Myles Garrett. Browns offense has been bad and the defense has been near historic at times and he leads the league in sacks. The Browns are likely 2 games worse without him.

But, as others have said, it will still probably be a QB. Instead of going to the most deserving player, it will go to the next most deserving QB.

[–] marmatag@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This year isn’t over. We have the luxury to just let it play out. And mvp voting is a fat who cares from me.

[–] moneyinthebank216@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Myles Garrett, Browns aren't in the Playoff conversation without him

[–] cheeseburgerpillow@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Hill, Brown, CMC

[–] NagoGmo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

CMC

All day

[–] gummybearattack@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Trent Williams.

[–] ThrowBatteries@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Based on that qualification, Lamar Jackson

[–] downtimeredditor@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Mike Tomlin

Motherfucker will find a way to get to 9+ wins with some BS

[–] AWYH@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] njpaul@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

CMC should be MVP. Niners would be a good team without him, but he opens up so much for Purdy and the rest of the offense and still has crazy rushing and receiving production as the number 1 focus of defenses.

[–] Animaleyz@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Garrett all the way

[–] ziggyjoe212@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

TJ Watt. He's the only good player on D (Minkah is injured and Cam is 35). He single handedly brings the pass rush. He bats down balls, he causes TOs, he TFL's. He is the defense. We're 6-4 with the worst offense in the league and a very mediocre defense.

Honestly, he might even be underrated. Early in his career Donald was a dominant force. Recently people have been comparing him to Garrett. Even Madden gave Garret a higher rating than Watt. Absurd.

[–] Leopold_Bloom_@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Travis Kelce for bringing all the Swifties into the fold.

[–] Spoof2020@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

CMC, Reek, Garrett, Dodson

Two offensive options and two defensive options.

Personally think CMC and Garrett are 1A and 1B with Hill behind them. Dodson let down by how fucking terrible Bills Offense has been meaning they get fucked over a lot but he's been electric IMO

[–] HisExcellency20@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I said a few weeks ago that if Jalen Hurts and the Eagles came out of this gauntlet part of their schedule with statement wins against top teams/QBs then he would win the MVP.

So far he's beaten Tua and the Dolphins, Dakota and the Cowboys, and Mahomes and the Chiefs. He and the Eagles have Allen and the Bills next, then San Fran, then Dallas again before rounding out in Seattle.

I know passing numbers for QBs are down, and Hurts' are down especially, but if he wins two or even three of those games and the Eagles have the best record in the league, with his total TD count, it'll be hard to give the award to anyone else. Not to mention he has Giants, Cardinals, Giants at the end of the year to pad the stats if need be.

I know I'm biased, but he is currently the favorite to win MVP despite lower passing numbers than most, and he was runner up last year (and the favorite before he got hurt), despite also not having crazy high passing stats. McCaffrey will win OPOY, but MVP is and honestly should be a QB award.

[–] AIIfather@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Danielle Hunter

[–] prizzabroy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Hill is on a freakish pace to get to 2000 yards and I believe he will do it. That’s MVP in my book

[–] sonfoa@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If the Browns make the playoffs I'd say Myles Garrett

[–] RockEmSockEmRabi@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] InternationalBand494@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Tyreek then

[–] Warhorse_99@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it’s Myles, Hill & CMC. I’d love for Myles to get it, but he’d have to step it up even though he’s been unbelievable. As a fan I’d be happy with a single MVP vote & DPoY. I think Hill maybe has the edge on those 3 though. Realistically Hurts or Mahomes wins by default though.

[–] Sherriff18@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

My objective MVP list in no particular order:

Myles Garrett Tyreek Hill CMC Patrick Mahomes Lamar Jackson Demeco Ryans Lions O-Line Eagles O and D-Lines

The definition of an MVP is far beyond statistical dominance. These players or units provide the most value to their respective teams IMO.

Though I agree that this year shows as much as any season why non-QB's have as much or more impact, I have to include Mahomes and Lamar because their teams are winning by operating through them; Mahomes is carrying an otherwise pedestrian offense, and Lamar's skillset and newfound ownership of the system far outweighs his touchdown production, or lack thereof. You could argue both teams' defenses are playing well enough to suppress the value of the QB's, but those values can by synonymous, especially since all of their losses have been at the expense of their teammates (especially Mahomes' receivers dropping passes).

[–] Reck335@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The only possible alternative to QB would be Mccaffrey

[–] Sumiz@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Myles Garrett

[–] 93LEAFS@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

As a Browns fan, I can't imagine what our season would look like without Myles. As a fantasy owner, I can't imagine what my season would look like without Reek. Tough choices here.

[–] Organic-Coat5042@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Honestly, my top 5 MVP candidates are all non-quarterbacks. Myles Garrett, Tyreek Hill, Christian McCaffrey, TJ Watt, and DaRon Bland would be my ballot

[–] C_Colin@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I think the obvious choice is Child Abuser Tyreek Hill

[–] nickstee1210@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I think Aj brown is a dark horse as a non qb player

[–] Sellier123@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

My man...JJ Watt didn't win it when he was the whole Texans team and dragged them to the playoffs.

MVP is a QB award

[–] SniperShake-@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

r/NFL when Jalen Hurts takes the odds lead for MVP:

[–] juanjing@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

They need to have 2 separate awards with equal prestige. I don't know what to call it, but an MVP race that arbitrarily excluded QBs would be very interesting to watch and keep track of. And the current MVP race is basically "QB of the Year" already.

[–] F-150Pablo@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

T. hill if he stays this output. Other than chiefs game has been on fire. And a Defensive guy would be awesome a lot of guys with a lot of sacks this year.

[–] Elegant_Spot_3486@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Stroud is my overall pick but non-QB is Aidan Hutchinson. I might be biased though.

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