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[–] Ronin_Ghost_@alien.top 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I'm a noob looking to build his first NAS server for media. Is this worth buying in bulk to shuck and install into a Synology DS923+? Open to suggestions if anyone is free to advise. Definitely looking to cash in on this black friday sale event.

[–] Omotai@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You might consider the 18 TB for $200 deal from Best Buy as well for more density, though this deal is better on a terabyte-per-dollar basis.

I haven't bought Seagate externals to shuck but I've bought a lot of WDs over the years for my Unraid box and I've had no issues with them.

[–] xRehve@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

It’s out of stock for me at least on the app

[–] CBrower@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’d advise you go for the older 920+. The 923+ dropped hardware acceleration and you’ll want that if you plan on streaming to a plex or other media apps.

[–] Ronin_Ghost_@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ooh. Thanks for the tip. Plex is a must have.

[–] ChumleyEX@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's not like Plex doesn't work, I have a similar model and it works fine. I even share access with friends. If the end device can handle h265 and you don't need to transcode anything, it works fine. Just be sure the end device can run at the original resolution too.

[–] Ronin_Ghost_@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Most of my screens are 4k or 2k. I have a lot of 1080p content and some 4k content. The issue only may arise if it is down scaling a 4k video to a lower resolution right?

[–] ChumleyEX@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes. I do keep my 4k content separate. I don't keep a lot of 4k, it's mostly all 1080p.

[–] Ronin_Ghost_@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

It's a personal server. I'm not planning to share it with anyone. So it seems like I'm good to go with the DS923+. The 920 that the guy is suggesting is still around a grand USD... Black friday sale has the 923 around 400.

[–] swim711crazy@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] kennman5000@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

i did the same, only got 4tb drives, but same brand/model.

ugh .. i need to upgrade soon

[–] switchlegend@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

good drive for the price also sometimes it makes a sound like someones hittin a vape

[–] GalaxyBonsai@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Really debating this, anyone know how good the drives are internally?

[–] Jumpierwolf0960@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

From what I've read online, the recently manufactured ones come with EXOS 2X14 Drives.

[–] West1234567890@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That would mean these are good no? I bought one when I saw buildapc raving about the EXOS but now I’m second guessing looking here. Everyone assumed it was a barracuda?

[–] Jumpierwolf0960@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I've heard good things about exos drives. Especially the dual actuator Mach.2 ones like this one. They're supposed to be really fast. I've heard that they reach 500MB/s reads but mine got 300MB/s in crystal disk benchmark. Mine is still in the enclosure btw, so that could be limiting it.

[–] druvanti@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have a 16tb Seagate desktop but these are pretty noicy when reading or writing

[–] soicz@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago
[–] PoundKitchen@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Only a one year warranty.... and that's practically being as hidden from consumers as it can be in all the literature released by Seagate for retailers and consumers.

These external desktop backup drives use reconditioned drives, or low on test performance specs out of production.

This is a case of, "It's too good to be true."

[–] CursedFeanor@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I see Seagate, I instantly close the page. Never again.

[–] Azzmo@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A Seagate drive with a one year warranty. This is a self-punishment exercise for anybody who buys.

[–] Hope-full@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can return them with the Costco guarantee. I'm surprised no one has mentioned this so far.

[–] azadarradaza@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe not with some electronics?

[–] Hope-full@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Drives are not mentioned in the current electronics exclusions. Major appliances, phones, drones, etc are. I've read the policy a handful of times this year

[–] azadarradaza@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Wow that's great!

[–] Big_Razzmatazz7416@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] poipoipoi_2016@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Anything

  1. with a 5 year warranty
  2. that also holds multiple drives
  3. where you bought those drives in ways designed to avoid correlated failures

I can't stop your PSU from exploding. I can keep individual hard drive failures from erasing everything.

[–] nnicknull@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

seagate? yeah, no thanks.

[–] samuraipizzacat420@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i just got an 18TB for 229 pre tax. 57% off

[–] LA3R9@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] samuraipizzacat420@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

here

but you need prime. i already have prime so i pulled the trigger since i need the space atm

[–] MedusaMyReflection@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can also check the WD site, I always look there to price check whenever Amazon has a sale.

[–] fescen9@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Good to know. The Amazon ship date was over a month out. WD has free shipping and faster. Only real issue is if I shuck it and there's an issue, Amazon is an easy return. WD, not so much.

[–] root_switch@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

These are available at my Costco. So this is a bad idea?

[–] lamp556@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago
[–] Lyons10@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I've had good luck with my shucked Seagate. Lots of hate here, but for the price I jumped on it.

[–] bloodpurck@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I just shucked those drive from BestBuy sale here in Canada, the drive inside are Exos X14 Mach 2. Essentially those drive are 2x7TB but any os or partition will only see 14TB

[–] Clawkikker@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Don't these have the x14 exos?

[–] JohnnyAK907@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah F Seagate shucked drives.