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Die hard NFL & Pats fan for a few decades now. I’ve always been of the mindset that more football is better than less, so I’ve always welcomed the Saturday games added to the schedule in late December.

But I have to say that today’s Black Friday game fell flat to me. So do the Sunday morning European games. For whatever reason that I haven’t been able to identify, I just don’t get up for them like I do the normal slate. It’s almost like I feel bad for watching them instead of doing normal shit. I’m good to watch the Thursday and Monday night games because the kids are asleep. Sunday afternoon is sort of accepted as time for football. But Friday afternoon and Sunday morning?? I get why the nfl is doing it. They’re wanting to expand viewership in Europe AND more importantly, dominate other time slots for ratings and future tv contracts. I get it but I also really find myself tuning out.

Am I alone on this island or does it feel like the NFL is quasi jumping the shark?

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[–] Visual_Antelope_583@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] unloader86@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Those start up in December.

[–] DoctorWaluigiTime@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Forever a fan of giving teams enough days between games. Do that, and schedule them whenever you want.

But stop giving teams 3-4 days' rest between games.

[–] FreddyDontCare@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

primetime games no longer feel special

[–] FantasyTrash@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The more days we have games, the better (within reason).

But, the selection of primetime games this season has been terrible, and it's abundantly clear the NFL does not give a flying fuck about the quality of product they provide to the very same people who make them money, they only care about ratings.

The Giants, Jets, Raiders, Steelers, etc., have zero business having as many primetime games as they do.

I like it, however the matchups leave a lot to be desired. Football in general has been pretty lackluster the last few years though honestly

[–] LiveFromNewYork95@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't like it. I love football but I don't live and die for football, I like watching other sports and I like watching other TV shows. I don't want the NFL every night of the week, I have a life outside of DraftKings and my fantasy team.

I think in the long term it could eventually hurt the NFL. I think the NFL became a juggernaut because of all the casual fans that other sports couldn't get. Think of all the people at your work, church, PTA, your neighborhood, who couldn't name a single NBA player outside of LeBron but somehow are in a fantasy football league every year. I think a huge part of of that is accessibility, if you wanna follow the NFL without being a hardcore fan (whether to follow your local team or to do fantasy football) you have to pay attention on Sunday with the occasional Monday or Thursday throughout the season. The NBA, MLB, and NHL don't have that, you gotta check in all the time sometimes 3+ times a week (or every night in the case of the MLB) in order to keep up, casual people don't want that. So by making it a 6 nights a week thing you're gonna make it harder for those people to follow and over time it will start to push them away from the sport.

But it doesn't matter. Amazon and Apple own us, they'll own the NFL and every entertainment option we have. They're gonna push to own every night of the week using NFL games and they have the money to do it.

[–] JEspo420@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There’s literally a court order in place stopping the NFL from doing exactly this, they could only do early Friday because there’s college games on right now, we aren’t getting games 6 nights a week

[–] LiveFromNewYork95@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Oh ya I forgot this was only America where big corporations literally never win by throwing enough money at a problem especially when it comes to antitrust cases. Plus Amazon has already made comments about being willing to test what exactly a law written in 1961 constitutes as "broadcasting" if they need to. They are 100% aiming to dismantle the Sports Broadcasting Act

[–] lewphone@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I think that changes when the 12-team college football playoff system starts. They're going to want some of those games on Sundays, I can see them making a deal with the NFL to swap Saturday & Sunday timeslots.

[–] Stronkowski@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I'm loving the 9:30 AM games. It's great being able to start right off, especially if I'm tailgating for a standard 1:00 game.

Today's game would have been great if the Jets had an offense. I don't think the problem was the time slot, the problem was Rodger's Achilles.

[–] FiftySixArkansas@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

On Saturdays I get to listen to college games at work on my headphones (although not a huge CFB fan).

Today!, however, not only did I listen to NFL football at work, but Dolphins football at work! More afternoon non-Sunday games!

[–] JLammert79@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The Sunday morning and Thursday games need to go. Sunday is too early (730am here) and Thursdays are bad for the teams, not to mention being on a paid service. Screw that.

[–] Menanders-Bust@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Every Jets game pretty much falls flat this season. The Jets playing with their 3rd string QB vs one of the best teams in the AFC? WOOF

[–] Aetylus@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

More games and more spread out the better. I'm in a non-US time zone, so I'd happily just have two games a day, each day of the week. I don't care what time they are because its all watched on delayed stream.

[–] Swarzey@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Being in Australia, I don't really have much of a comment on the Europe games; outside of being committed to watching the Chiefs this year, I don't want any of them in order to be up for the 1pm games.

But the Black Friday game this morning was nice. A bad game, but still having a game on a Saturday morning while nursing a hangover was welcomed. I'd put your feeling down to being new and different, it's always going to be inherently disruptive at first. Even the existence of the game is tied to Amazon, the fact we'll get it until 2033 is enough to make it feel like it has a natural place in the scheduling.

It's almost as if the NFL is seeking another day of the week to hold primetime games in case MLS hooks enough young Americans raised on playing soccer into watching professional "futball" instead of football on Sundays.

[–] opiate82@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Personally not a fan at all. Don’t even like TNF, might change my mind if they change it so only teams coming off a bye can play TNF but the NFL obviously won’t do that. It’s just clear the coaches don’t have enough time to game plan and the players don’t have enough time to recover, so the quality of the games suffer.

The international games annoy me because I’ve been burned more than once with a game time scratch and I don’t want to have to get up at 0630 to check my fantasy roster, but obviously tapping the international market is probably way more valuable than catering to fantasy football players on the west coast. I do wonder if the travel has an impact on the quality of the games, but I doubt it’s anywhere near the impact of the short rest of TNF.

Saturday games don’t bother me when college football isn’t going.

[–] Optimal-Ad4636@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

you lost me at pats fan. Google goodell bilicheck destroying tapes. You have 0 opinion in the NFL world if you supported anything to do with the pats.

[–] Writerhaha@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

F*ck non traditional scheduling.

Sunday and Monday.

No Thursday football or special Black Friday games.

[–] MAD_ELMO@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you live on the west coast, there’s always been Sunday morning games

[–] DeucesWild10@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Right, so now you have a game starting at like 630am… is that desirable?

[–] BeautifulBaconBits@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Gotta remember they expected a big game between a good Miami team and Rodgers led new york team. Game probably would've been significantly different.

Otherwise I don't necessarily mind, especially at this point in the season with cfb winding down.

[–] thebrah329@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't even watch that game yesterday between it being at an awful time and the teams playing good luck getting people to watch that.

I love football in more time slots. I say keep it the way it is. Nothing like having football on while sipping my coffee

[–] dashcam_RVA@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It's bad football, it's always bad football.

I hate it but Thursday night football is still the biggest draw on Thursday nights.

[–] HisRoyalFlatulance@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

That slide started for me when the Draft went to Prime Time. Weekend Draft Day parties were magnificent.