Statistically speaking, wouldn't any action that reduces the number of cars on the road be good for public safety?
this post was submitted on 17 Aug 2025
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Also as a business owner, I have more success with bike traffic and foot traffic then with people in cars. Theses business owners are so fucking dumb.
propaganda works
It always happens when a street is made pedestrian-only: the argument that it will reduce sales for small local businesses. I fail to understand how seeing cars drive past your shop is better for sales than people walking around your shop.
the loud vroom vroom and emissions must be great ambiance for the customers.
I don't know about everyone else, but I actively avoid shops that are next to any kind of multilane road.
most business owners seem to be maybe good at actually doing the job, but just barely scraping by in terms of running the business..
it's like how anyone with experience says you should never open a restaurant, then you look at how restaurants are run and yeah no shit it doesn't work when people don't realize you have to 1) make food people want to buy, 2) make food that people can afford to buy, and 3) keep your business to a scale where you can actually make a profit.
Like my god, stop opening big restaurants, just run a food truck or something and accept that you're not getting michelin stars.
“ Mirabella said the association’s end goal is not to prevent the DOT from installing protected bike lanes in Astoria but said the group is calling for the bike lanes to be installed on a residential corridor such as 33rd Street, where there is less traffic and less store fronts than the 31st Street corridor. He also stated that the 31st Street corridor has significant visibility issues due to the overhead tracks.”
Having lived nearby 31st St is incredibly stupid from a visibility perspective. Im inclined to agree that 33rd would be better
Whoa, you're upsetting the pitchfork mob by agreeing that the business owners might just have a genuine concern.
Im not worried about the business owners. Im worried about cyclists getting hit by cars that dont see them
But... The business owners stating that the proposed street was dangerous is exactly what you just quoted...? I didn't say you were worried about the business owners.
Yes and my concern is for the bikers as they wont be seen on 31st as easily as 33rd st.
I'm curious how overhead tracks cause significant visibility issues at ground level.
Over head tracks have a support structure underneath that causes blind spots.
Sounds like a need for protected bike lanes with bushes in between.
All those support pillars for the tracks are hard to see through and are quite large
LOL..the support pillars are not that large. This is just concern-trolling on the part of Nimbys.
Lol, sure buddy Im totally sure you know what you are talking about not actually being there.
This is a fact, yes. Motor vehicle deaths from children drop whenever driving goes down. Insurance claims go down. Pollution goes down.