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  • is it legal to use biological waste after consuming those peppers?
  • is is healthy? Is it GMO?
  • how patented food/seeds works?
  • what are implications for society?
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[–] Seathru@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

According to their website, no.

All our varieties are bred using classic and traditional seed breeding techniques without any genetic modification (non-GMO).

"is it legal to use biological waste after consuming those peppers?"
I do not understand this question.

"is is healthy?"
To quote Bill Clinton: "it depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is"

[–] Mambert@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

GMO isn't bad. Everything is genetically modified.

Patented foods already exist. Have for years.

Monsanto has corn plants that don't grow at a consistent height if you try to replant the seeds, making them profit by getting you to buy more seeds next year.

We already have seedless plants, bananas.

[–] aperson@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago

Patented foods already exist. Have for years.

Just wait until they hear about this one fruit called an "apple".

[–] PiecePractical@midwest.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So, while in think there are certainly fair criticisms to be made of allowing patents on plants, the paper you linked is kind of just low quality fear mongering. It's heavy one scare tactics and light on facts. I wouldn't let anything in this paper keep you up at night without verifying it through a more reputable source.

To try to answer your questions though;

  1. I really don't understand why you think it wouldn't be. There are some sources recommending that boliological waste made up of the GMOs themselves be sterilized before leaving lab conditions but if you eat a GMO and it passes through your digestive track there will be few if any living GMO cells remaining. Particularly in the case of peppers, mammals' digestive tracts will destroy pepper seeds. That's why they're spicy, it's ironically a defense mechanism to keep us mammals from eating them.

  2. At any rate, 1is kind of a moot point because the paper you linked clearly states that wild peppers were cross bred with commercial peppers. That's very traditional plant breeding, no mention of GMOs. Given the blatant fear mongering in the rest of the paper, I'd be floored if they missed a chance to scare people about GMOs in these peppers. So unless the peppers you're asking about are different from the ones in the paper, I'd say they're definitely not GMOs. Also, I don't believe there are any GMO peppers on the market at present.

  3. The short version is this. A company, let's say Pioneer seed, patents a breed of corn that has, let's say increased stalk strength for windstorm prone areas. A farmer buys and plants those seeds, sells the resulting crop. The only difference from heirloom seeds is that the farmer is legally prohibited from using that crop as seed corn and selling that crop.

  4. So in principle, there isn't really an impact on society from patented seeds. In practice, some of the patent holders have been overly aggressive with there enforcement. IMHO, this is a patent enforcement issue not an issue with the parents themselves. I don't know about Europe but I know that here in the US there is a problem with dubious patents being approved and enforced but again, that's patents as a whole not just seed patents. At this point I'd be more worried about what happens without seed patents. Nobody is going develop seeds except universitys which (at least here in the US) are criminally underfunded. Effectively, our crop technology would stagnant without serious increases in public University funding which I'm a huge supporter of but sadly, can't imagine happening in my lifetime.

I hope I'm not coming off as an asshole here. Just trying to answer your questions honestly.

[–] naut@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

But if I take unconsumed food from my plate and use it for compost or just dispose it in garden? Is that a patent use legal issue? Should laws protect us from unwanted GMO patents? For example, if I have a field and field next to mine is growing GMO, why I would be in danger of legal issues? I should get protection for using my land for growing what I need.

If it is only crossing and breeding, how that can be patented? How can you prove that I didn't use protected patents?