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[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I want an EV but the only affordable option is Chevy and somewhat the Nissan Leaf. Every other option is way to expensive. If my current car died, I guess I would buy one of them. But I'm going to drive it into ground or until sometime else affordable comes along.

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[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (4 children)

despite our economic prosperity

Fuck you. I could barely afford a Honda Fit.

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[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

Car dealers are useless middlemen that should be put out of business.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It may also have something to do with all the announcements about changing the charging port. I wouldn’t buy a car when I know they’re changing g that next year. I mean, it’s about time, but that’s going to deter buyers

[–] ohitsbreadley@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I look forward to buying an EV with a usb-c charging port.

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[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Sell EV’s under $30k and you’ll sellout!

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Bolt? Sorry, they are getting rid of that for a few years. Hell, it took a lot for them to even agree to bring the damn thing back. They were going to kill it despite its popularity.

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[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 years ago (20 children)

Give me an EV without a massive center console that blinds me at night. Remove all the "smart" features like lane assist. Give me a fucking dumb EV

[–] Cihta@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This drives me crazy. Take a solid platform like the FRS.. electrify it for something equiv to 300/300 and give it a 200 mile range. No fancy interior, lots of plastic, no lane assist etc. It would be fun and affordable. Same platform could be used for a more refined crossover.

I feel like Honda really should have done some type r civic thing but with electric.

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[–] jray4559@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 2 years ago (14 children)

You can't sell EV's because:

1: too expensive to buy new 2: if you live anywhere that's not a big city, or you have a garage, there is basically no electric chargers for you.

The city I live in (~30k people) has 6 chargers total. None of them are superchargers. Wait times are already a sticking point in the best case, nevermind what the wait times would be if everyone where I'm at had an electric car tomorrow. The whole downtown would maybe gridlock just because of people waiting.

For comparison, there are probably 2-300 gas pumps around the city. 5 gas stations within 5 minutes of where I am, all with at least 8 pumps, all well used. People are not going to get EV's unless there is an infrastructure that is equivalent to gas around where they live.

And that infrastructure is not gonna be fun to get going.

The average person living in the city can't really use them with street parking, can't always guarantee a spot after all, and installing a personal one for yourself all but requires a personal garage, which locks out the people who live in poorer housing.

Lots of people in my city and I suspect many others live in trailer parks with low/fixed incomes, having just a simple driveway. Where are they gonna get the thousand or two to install a Level 2 charging station? My mom and dad certainly don't have the money.

Expecting the EV companies to make the infrastructure with the money they get just from selling EV's is gonna turn into one gigantic chicken-and-egg problem. The government is going to have to do it, and anyone who's not living along an interstate can see just how much benefit they are personally getting from it so far.... (hint: none)

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Translation: Car dealers don't make as much money from EV's.

Car sales is a racket anyway, the dealers make too much money, the car manufacturers make too much money, and with the prospect of a new technology that costs more they've realised that they can't charge as much more, meaning they profit less.

Price is not proportional to cost.

The biggest crime is the villainisation of haggling. Price must be negotiable for a system to remain fair.

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[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

car dealers literally don't need to exist and make the buying experience worse for everyone

[–] hahattpro@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

A problem with EV is those cars are infected with DRM.

Remember tesla deactivate DLC ?

[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Are hybrids still a thing?

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