South Park

alien,aliens how to do a strong female lead. just do it and not make a big deal about it.

its like the saying a tough guy is the one who is not telling every one how tough they are.

The points made in the episode are very fair, big companies should stop acting like we care because their main character is gay, but people on twitter should stop whining like baby’s because the main male character likes cocks instead of tits

Being autistic atypical really helped me feel like I'm not alone in some sense. Kind of pathetic maybe but I really enjoyed it.
Put a chick in it. Make it autistic too.

I forget who wrote this line, but it was from a video essay that I really liked about writing characters of certain, typically unrepresented identities.

If you want a good gay character, write a good character, then make them gay. Same with any other minority or identity. Character writing comes before identity if you want a good story.

If the story is centered around their struggles with that identity that's fine, but in certain media it seems like "I'm the character that's gay! That's it!" rather than "I'm a complex character that moves the story that happens to be gay!".

Either way though, I hate seeing a well written character of certain identities be bashed despite being well written, and I also hate seeing characters that are very obviously meant to pander.

I think you your argument is pretty solid.

Most modern shows today think that their show is supposed to have a gay character as a requirement to pass some diversity test and they then proceed to make that character’s value centre around their gayness and almost nothing else. Basically they are the token gay person.

There is also a lot of soap box rants and preaching about who are the heroic victims and who are the villains shoehorned in there to meet some sort of perceived obligation. Especially when it comes to the concept of what they think feminism is.

A show that uses diversity well is the expanse. All the preaching about bigotry there is mostly based on the cultures between Earth, Mars, and Belters. With some future rich vs poor classes sprinkled in for fun.

Man, it doesn't get more evident than this.

Minorities are exploited and used for pushing low-quality products.

It's the same thing over and over again:

- they wanted to use women to push products? There you have it: female ghostbusters.

- the green economy you say? Yeah, but only because dollars are green.

It's only natural we all support minorities, women, the enviroinment and the likes, but we people can see when a movie, a tvseries, a book, a comicbook, or just something that is sold is just straight shit.

So, of course, I totally support anyone and anything that for unjust reasons is mistreated, but there's no way I can enjoy those products they're trying to push so desperately: it's just tasteless, unoriginal, marketed shit.

Jesus Christ I got no time to read a novel

As a trans lesbian I too love when representation is done correctly ala She-Ra, the Harley Quinn TV show, Owl House etc. Not shit that is gonna give me a character and expect a pat on the back because that one minor character was gay and had no other defining characteristics besides that they are gay.

To me, the point isn’t that you can’t have gay characters, it’s about WHY you’re starting to include a ton of gay characters more than anything. If you’re remaking every Disney movie but making every single main character gay, claiming it’s for diversity and inclusion: it no longer is. It is literally to make people who wanna see more gay people watch your movie, and to create conversations by people who don’t.

If you change the race or sexuality of a main character of an established movie or series, some of the internet will outrage, and some of them will be excited. But the angry people talking about will automatically create more publicity either way. And if they happen to make very stereotypical, outgoing gay people (where being gay is their whole personality and reason the piece of media exists), then the homophobic viewers can claim that gay people are being shoved down their throats, and it kind of… creates even more homophobia? Because it’s enforcing this view instead of showing them that newsflash: gay people are literally just people.

I’ve been getting annoyed because you can’t claim to do something for diversity and inclusion, but only include the same group over and over. Like it’s so cool that they made the little mermaid black. But if you remake every single princess movie and make the main character black every time…. you’re still not representing tons of other races who also deserve to have representation.

Side note: I’ve never left my opinion on this on the internet, because I’m so afraid of it being taken badly. It’s okay to remake movies and change how the characters look. It’s also okay to have outgoing gay characters. And obviously homophobic people will be homophobic either way, same for racism, but I feel like sometimes media is created just to enforce the idea that there is some kind of gay agenda (or whatever other kind of agenda) being forced onto viewers? Like they are purposely furthering the divide by creating content that nobody asked for, and then hiding from critique by claiming they did it for inclusivity, etc. Anyways, I hope people reading this actually try to understand what I mean instead of taking each piece of it at face value, because this is very hard to articulate properly :)

seems like disney can't add gayness without pandering.