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Birdtray on Debian is extremely self-deprecating... (slrpnk.net)

submitted 4 weeks ago by oeuf@slrpnk.net to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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Perhaps only mildly interesting but I just did an apt show for birdtray on Debian 13 and got this in the second paragraph of the description:

It is a nasty hack -- an external process looking at Thunderbird's insides, it suffers from problems like noticing new mails only after a delay, having to restart Thunderbird just to hide its window, etc -- you'd want to use an extension like firetray instead -- but, it is likely that support for Thunderbird XUL extensions will be dropped soon, possibly by the time you read these words.

Not used to seeing this kind of language in the Debian repos tbh.

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[–] paper_moon@lemmy.world 48 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Sounds like a developer who's pissed they had to make this hack in the first place, not proud of it, and not the way they'd like to solve the problem. But the external factors they can't control keep putting up road blocks, so this hack was all they could come up with to temporarily solve the issue for themselves.

[–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 11 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah. Never seen actual ranting in apt though - it caught me off guard.

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 24 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I appreciate this kind of straightforward honesty.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, part of the reason I like open-source. The devs don't need to sell you anything, so they can just tell you that what they made is a steaming pile of garbage.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago

i got my hand slapped for describing a project that i put together for an old-silicon employer in the recent past; i reverted it back just before i left. lol

[–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

I do too. But I have this illusion about Debian that everything is perfect, authoritative and dignified, which it is of course and then I am struck by this kind of candid resentment and bitterness in apt like a bolt out of the blue. I just don't what to think any more.

[–] doritoshave9sides@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Birthday on Debian

[–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'll cry if I want to.