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Im missing a lot of charm that w2 and first starcraft games had, and i did not see any open engine recreations, nor clones that lived to this day. With warcraft 3 i only ever finished half of the game, by the time sc2 came out, i was already too old to even bother trying.

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[–] jompaofg@feddit.nu 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wargus and Stargus is an open source engine recreation that is still active

https://stratagus.com/index.html https://github.com/Wargus/wargus

[–] skele_tron@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

This is what i was searching for haha. Time replay tides of darkness but with better controls

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Just so you know, StarCraft 2 is free to play now, including the terran campaign. It even has a more relaxed co-op vs ai mode with a lot of replay value for the people who can’t put up 300 apm any more in competitive play.

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think someone also recreated the entire SC1 campaign as custom SC2 maps

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah that one is also fantastic. It’s called StarCraft: Mass Recall and is also completely free

[–] dallo@lemmy.kiois.net 7 points 2 years ago

0AD is more Age Of Empire based but it is quite good so far. Still a work in progress.

[–] Jax@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Warcraft 2 was a blast. Not quite the same, but there's OpenRA for your Red Alert needs.

[–] Dildade41@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Total Annihilation - pretty fun, and easy to mod in more awesome units

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i was already too old to even bother trying.
What? You mean it as having less game time?

[–] skele_tron@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

Yes, that and blizzards enshittification was well underway so i just skipped on it.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ground Control is does not feature the base-building of WC/SC, but are excellent RTS mission-based games.

Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak is another excellent one.

Earth 2150 includes the base-building, as well as a very cool "persistent homebase" mechanic for the singleplayer campaigns, where you build bases in the mission sites but also have a home base that you can transport units to/from, for use in future missions.

[–] Aidinthel@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Loria is a game from 2018 that is very obviously inspired by Warcraft 2. I remember enjoying my playthrough.

[–] Arkham@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

Came here to mention Loria as well. I like to call it "Warcraft 2.5"

[–] Pilokyoma@mujico.org 1 points 2 years ago

The original starcraft brood war, are free.

Other games: 0Ad Seven kingdom

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Halo Wars 2 is on Steam

[–] millie@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you've never played Dune 2 or Dune 2000 or whatever other iterations and remakes of the Dune RTS series, I strongly recommend it. It seems like a lot of Warcraft's DNA comes from Dune.

[–] madkarlsson@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Seems like"? Dune 2 is the template which most RTS is derived from. Truly a genre defining game

[–] millie@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, seems like. Like when I was a kid and I played Dune 2, then played Warcraft a few years later, the one seemed to inherit most of its ideas from the other.

But I didn't like go look up the dates or exhaustively check that no other game came up with the format first. I know the first Age of Empires is somewhere vaguely in that same time span too, but I'm not certain of the order.

Thus seems.

[–] madkarlsson@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Oh sorry it seemed offensive or negative in any way, I just wanted to clarify that "seems like" i s a vast understatement. Dune 2 predates all of them, and became a template for mechanics and layouts. We've gone a long way since, but dune was the first of the models that we build RTS games as today