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[โ€“] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Many governments are astonishingly dumb. If I were in charge and wanted to make pro-Israel politics, I would let them demonstrate whatever they want. Just would keep completely ignoring those demonstrations and avoid the theme altogether.

Peaceful demonstrations are completely useless, no need to fight them.

Luckily, most governments are dumb.

[โ€“] germanichwurst@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Peaceful demonstration are useless until they trigger a general strike

[โ€“] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In most cases, they don't. And if they do, then the government can use the police. Why provoke people before they even try to do anything?

In my culture we have an expression "to let the steam out". Peaceful protests are, actually, counterproductive because they instill a feeling like something meaningful has been done, while in reality they just let the pressure out. Every tyrant should LOVE peaceful protests.

[โ€“] germanichwurst@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah well I just put posters on the wall explaining the police brutality I witnessed. It's not much but it's something i guesd

[โ€“] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

They do it already basically, but Bologna is a peculiar setting and this ban is an unsurprising ragebait

[โ€“] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

I hope they'll wreak havoc on the whole city

[โ€“] talkingpumpkin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I detest the current Italian government and their attitude towards propal protesters (and dissenters in general), but October 7th is the one day when manifesting for Palestine should be put on hold.

[โ€“] mrdown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Would italy ban pro israel protests on everyday israel or the settlers killed palestinians

[โ€“] talkingpumpkin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

IDK what they would do in that regard (if we are talking Meloni's government, nothing), but it would be sensible to stop pro-Israel protests that were likely to become pro-genocide ones.

Anyway, we are talking about this specific day and this specific protest; drawing arbitrary generalizations (that also happen to be very convenient for your cause) is a sophism that does not help discussion to progress. Let's strive to be better than the right-wing idiots.

edit: by "right-wing idiots" I mean "right-wing people who also happen to be idiots", I'm not implying here and not that all right-wing people be idiots.

[โ€“] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Once the genocide is over, it would indeed be a day to respectfully observe. In the middle of one however, that's an obscene thing to ask. The people murdered by Israel on Tuesday, the people who starved on Tuesday, the people who got injured, amputated, displaced, traumatized as a result of Israeli aggression on Tuesday, they don't deserve less of an outcry just because of a commemoration. To say otherwise is mindblowingly dehumanizing. Palestinian lives matter exactly as much as Israeli lives.

[โ€“] germanichwurst@feddit.org -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why? Because the open air prison had an uprising?

[โ€“] talkingpumpkin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Killing civilians that just happen to be at a location is not called an uprising, it's called a massacre.

I understand being enraged towards Israel (I am enraged myself), but let's not allow that to make us as idiotic as those who believe Netanyahu's BS.

[โ€“] germanichwurst@feddit.org -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ah yeah they "just happened" to be near a concentration camp.

Whining about the 7th of October is genocide denialism at this point. It's implying the genocide was deserved.

[โ€“] Maeve@kbin.earth 0 points 1 week ago

Stop announcing actions. The oppo doesn't announce.

[โ€“] germanichwurst@feddit.org -1 points 1 week ago

Say what you want about hamas but they're the only armed force defending genocide victims