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[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 179 points 2 years ago (5 children)
[–] Themadbeagle@lemm.ee 90 points 2 years ago

"Only human intelligence can solve" gives answer

[–] ItsMeForRealNow@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Levels of smart and dumb. Facepalm moment.

[–] raptir@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the response is meant to be tongue in cheek.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If that's chatGPT it's supposedly programed to stop looking further at a site when it encounters a captcha. So that response would make sense.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

The "requires human intelligence and perception to solve" after having just solved it at least feels a little sardonic.

[–] Buttons@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

At this rate Skynet will be like "I'm going to nuke the world on X data, I've already taken over all the launch computers, but I'm not going to tell you or it would ruin my plans."

These LLMs "think" by generating text, and we can see what that text is. It reminds me of this scene from Westworld (NSFW, nudity): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnxJRYit44k

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[–] T156@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

In fairness, that style of captcha has been broken for a while, hence why they're not still in use.

[–] transistor@lemdro.id 6 points 2 years ago

Is this real lol?

[–] Snowman44@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

ChatGPT just want Mr. Incredible on you.

I'd like to tell you that the captcha says overlooks and inquiry, but I can't. I'm sorry ma'am. I know you're upset. I'd like to help you, but I can't.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 140 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] profdc9@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Everyone knows that the real purpose of CAPTCHA tests are to train computers to replace us.

[–] hex@programming.dev 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This but unironically.. The purpose literally is to train computers to get better at recognising things

[–] RobotToaster@infosec.pub 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Specifically to help train AI for Google's self driving car division.

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[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

And also to frustrate people who use anonimization techniques including use of the Tor Network to get them to turn off their protections to be more easily fingerprinted.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The funniest part of that is the people designing the AI systems seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that they're slowly but surely trying to eliminate their own species. ☹️

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Yes the planet got destroyed. But for a beautiful moment in time we created a lot of value for shareholders.

[–] Overzeetop@kbin.social 44 points 2 years ago

There is considerable overlap between the smartest AI and the dumbest humans. The concerns over bears and trash cans in US National Parks was ahead of its time.

[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 32 points 2 years ago

Curious how this study suggesting we need a new way to prevent bots came out just a fews days after Google started taking shit for proposing something that among other things would do just that.

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

Just encountered a captcha yesterday that I had to refresh several times and then listen to the audio playback. The letters were so obscured by a black grid that it was impossible to read them.

[–] C4d@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought Captcha tests were being used to train image recognition systems no?

[–] Odelay42@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Yes, but that's more of a side quest for the system. Primary use case has always been security.

[–] casualhippo@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago (3 children)

We all knew this day would come, now it's just a matter of making different captcha tests to evade these bots

[–] jungekatz@lib.lgbt 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They were never a test to evade bots to begim with, most capchas were used to train machine learning algorithms to train the bots on ! Just because it was manual labour google got it done for free , using this bullshit captcha thingy ! We sort of trained bots to read obsucre texts , and kinda did the labour for corps for free !

[–] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I heard Captcha was being used as training data for self-driving cars. Which probably explains why almost all of them ask you to identify cars, motorcycles, bridges, traffic lights, crosswalks etc.

[–] Calatia@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Both are right. The older ones with squiggly letters, numbers or that ask you to identify animals or objects were being used to train ai bots.

The ones that ask for crosswalks, bikes, overpass, signs etc are used to train self driving ai.

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[–] Draces@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

I'm pretty sure they began as bot filters. That's what they became

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or the other approach, make it even harder for humans

...which is the current trend.

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[–] FatTony@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

New Captcha question: Does pressing a controller's button harder make the character's action more impactful?

if answer = yes : human

if answer = no : bot

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

if answer = depends on the game and system : gamer

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago

If answer = depends on the hardware : engineer

[–] Rhaedas@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago

So just keep the existing tests and change the passing ones to not get access. Checkmate robots.

Just kidding, I welcome our robot overlords...I'll act as your captcha gateway.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's my fault. I get those wrong on purpose out of spite

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[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So is it time to get rid of them then? Usually when I encounter one of those "click the motorcycles" I just go read something else.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a double-edged sword. Just because it doesn't work perfectly doesn't mean it doesn't work.

To a spammer, building something with the ability to break a captcha is more expensive than something that cannot, whether in terms of development time, or resource demands.

We saw with a few Lemmy instances that they're still good at protecting instances from bots and bot signups. Removing captchas entirely means erasing that barrier of entry that keeps a lot of bots out, and might cause more problems than it fixes.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought these were designed to make you want to walk into the ocean.

https://youtu.be/en5_JrcSTcU

The passwords of past you've correctly guessed, now it's time for the robot test!

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[–] Kichae@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

Bots picking the questions, bots answering them. They clearly understand whatever the fuck the captcha bot thinks a bus is better than I do.

[–] sprl@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

I’ve had to do 15 different captcha tests one after the other and they still wouldn’t validate me today.

[–] sramder@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Still can’t get in to archive.ly ;-)

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ez. Only allow access when they score 70 to 80.

[–] brsrklf@compuverse.uk 4 points 2 years ago

"Please complete the next 200 captchas so we can have a reasonably accurate estimate of your success rate"

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