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To be clear: phasing out fossil fuels is the biggest thing we can do to stabilize temperatures. Opec getting mad is a good sign.

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[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If OPEC is upset, then I am happy. Maybe they are actually making some progress.

[–] federalreverse@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

At this point, are you seriously counting on oil lobbyists being unsuccessful in bribing politicians? I do hope that oil companies are wiped out of the market in most countries soon enough because their products are too expensive. But worldwide political agreement on actual measures against fossil industries would be a miracle imo.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 months ago

There are obviously enough politicians within the COP28 to push for a oil phase out seriously enough to have OPEC worried. Obviously it is not going to pass as OPEC countries would just block it themself, but that does not stop those countries from phasing out fossil fuels domestically.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

My tipping point has been reached. We need changes up in this bitch.

[–] ElectricAirship@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for including the actual letter!

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You're welcome. I don't always have details like that available to me.

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

@shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml Saw this post and recalled out conversation on COP28. This is what I meant about reducing consumption. Fixing pipelines to slow methane leaks and preventing private investing is probably OK, nothing wrong with it. Achtually reducing consumption of the thing that make the emissions in the first place, is what is required for achtual change.