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Hey, I've recently designed a Poster about the FHS since I often forget where I should place or find things. Do you have any feedback how to make it better?

I updated the poster: https://whimsical.com/fhs-L6iL5t8kBtCFzAQywZyP4X use the link to see online.

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[–] Admax@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Damn that's some great work ! When I started linux I wish I had found such ressources, I was really curious what each of these directories were for.

Would you mind if your material was reused (with credit) for education purposes ?

[–] callcc@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

I'd be more than happy if this was used. Do whatever you want with it as long as you abide by the CC BY-SA-4.0 license. This means you can share freely and modify as long as you keep the authorship information and share with same license.

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[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I really like this, but can I have a black background version please?

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[–] Samueru@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

We need something like this for home, I hate that programs like steam and firefox place themselves directly into home instead of ~/.config and ~/.llocal.

I even move my personal themes to /usr/share/themes because not everything works with ~/.local/share/themes and needs a ~/themes directory instead.

[–] cerulean_blue@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Super useful, thanks. Actually made a lot of things click in my head about how Linux works.

When did /home get deprecated? Is /usr/local the replacement?

Sorry for the n00b question (I'm not a noob, but I have been off Linux for a few years), figured the answer may be useful to other users too

[–] vole@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

/home is not deprecated, it's optional but common. Here is the section from FHS: https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs/ch03s08.html

[–] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

then the legend should be fixed its confusing, as is the whole idea of FHS is outdated and a chore for new users to get into (i still don't fully understand it)

  • difference between /media and /mnt
  • wtf is /run? some glorified /temp?
  • /usr/sbin "non vital system binaries" ... aha ok, whatever don't tell me you understand the difference between 6 (SIX !) differen bin/sbin folders
  • could continue forever...
[–] callcc@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

The legend is a bit broken. Will fix it maybe.

As for the rest, yes, the FHS can be confusing. It's from a time where mostly professional admins would deal with it and requirements were pretty different from today's end-user systems. If you want to understand more, I urge you to read the spec. It's highly readable! https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs.html

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[–] pipows@lemmy.today 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

This is a very useful, very well done chart, congratulations.

But what a mess is FHS. Easily the worst thing of linux design for me

[–] callcc@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

The better you understand it the less it seems bad.

[–] ferralcat@monyet.cc 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm surprised to hear /home is non standard.

[–] callcc@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I guess the reason it's not in FHS is that FHS is concerned about system wide things whereas /home is the opposite. It's the user's realm.

There is XDG for /home/$user though.

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are you planning on doing one for XDG?

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[–] urfavlaura@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

does guix go the same was as nixos in that regard? where can I find info regarding FHS in guix?

[–] callcc@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Afaik guix is very similar to nixos in that respect. The store where applications are installed is called /gnu there.

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[–] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

FHS? Who needs that?

[–] callyral@pawb.social 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

how is /usr/local local and not system-wide? i though it was for programs you compiled yourself?

[–] TheEntity@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Local" in this context means local to this whole machine. From the perspective of a single user, it's system-wide. But then from the perspective of a sysadmin managing dozens of such systems, it's local.

[–] callyral@pawb.social 4 points 11 months ago

thanks for the explanation!

[–] callcc@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Many FHS things don't make much sense for single-user (human user) systems on modern hardware. /usr/local does though. It's for you (as admin) to install software that doesn't come with the os.

[–] mankeulv@lemmy.latrans.cloud 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Nicely done! Do you perchance have any hi res version?

[–] callcc@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Thanks! Unfortunately I've used closed source whimsical.com for this and don't have a paid subscription. They only offer low-res for those accounts since recently :(

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[–] Crow@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So why does my system mount my drives to /run/user/1000…?

[–] callcc@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

1000 might by your user's user-id

[–] pixelscript@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

1000 is the default ID given to the first-created user on Debian-based systems.

May or may not be the case with other distros. Haven't checked.

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[–] dan@upvote.au 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I've never seen /etc/opt used. Usually if an app is in /opt, the entire app is there, including its config which is frequently at /opt/appname/etc/.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And /net is usually autofs mounted.

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[–] worldofbirths@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Looks great!

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