Someone, light the EU signal!
Lawsuit intensifies in the distance
this post was submitted on 12 Dec 2023
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Fuck Google. Ruining the internet for profit.
They dont want to just run it.
they want to control and dictate it.
Google needs a massive regulatory hammer to come down on it and smash it into dozens, if not hundreds, of tiny individual companies
That needs to happen more with Alphabet than Google but either would be great.
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Can you say Anticompetition practices?
1 lawsuit, 2 lawsuit, 3 lawsuit ah ah ah
Slam dunks, yes. But does any of the people who would bring a case against then have enough money to fight an army of more lawyers? Probably not.
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YouTube thinks aarch64 Firefox is... a HiSense TV?!?!?!?!
Ah yes, televisions are exactly where the user wants lower resolution
They finally made YouTube unusable for me even with ublock. Refreshing the filters didn't work and told me I could only watch 3 videos.
Google was always going to win the war but I didn't expect it to be like this.
I'm now using piped for all YouTube videos.
I randomly stopped getting the anti-adblocking. On my gaming PC I never got them, on my laptop they went away after I disabled my adblocking for one video and then re-enabled it. Now I don't get them at all. Did they give up on me?
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Using an alternative front end isn’t losing
Once they get rid of front ends and you go back they’ll have won
You are remembering to purge all caches before refreshing I hope?
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User Agent String: A browser's way of lying about what it is, in order to not trigger some server's arcane content filtering system.
User Agents should be optional. The whole idea of the Internet was that the server should respond the same way to the same request regardless of the client's qualities.
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Hmm, anti competitive practices.
If only there was some kind of legislation that protected an open and fair internet...
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The more bullshit like this I read about YouTube the more I despite them. I already use GrayJay on mobile and I'm using ublock Origin + ublock Matrix on Librewolf to control cookie usage on desktop. So far I've been able escape the video player block by clearing cache.
I'm just waiting for the day they "force" me onto another frontend.
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From what I can understand from the thread, they aren't deliberatly crippling FF.
Oh, they also do that. Just not based on architecture. https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/21/23970721/google-youtube-ad-blocker-five-second-delay-firefox-chrome
The way I read it is Chrome gets a pass on the architecture crippling, the others don't.
Someone correct me if I got the wrong idea.
So Google is saying out loud they are trying to be Microsoft and abuse its near monopoy to push their other products.
Got it.
It looks like also this was against adblocker so, again, not specifically Firefox. Quote from the article itself:
The issue was initially reported as targeting Firefox users, but users online have said they’re seeing the delay in Chrome and Edge, too. Reddit and Hacker News users who’ve examined the code that appears to be causing the delay have said they see no indication that YouTube checks what kind of browser is in use. Mozilla’s senior brand manager Damiano DeMonte wrote in an email to The Verge that “there’s no evidence that this is a Firefox-specific issue.
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Which turned out to also have nothing to do with FF but is targeting adblockers.
I like how nobody actually bothered to read the thread and doesn't understand this is a bug and wasn't done on purpose.
Having bugs for platforms outside the walled garden is a feature of the walled garden. That's the beauty of it, they don't need to purposefully cripple Firefox and other engines if they just don't take it into account when creating features.
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Quite a reductive statement based on a very small obscured window into what Google is doing with user agent profiling but go off I guess since you’re so sure
It's not. First of all, the code doesn't check for Firefox at all. Second, it blocks 4K for all Android devices. Conclusions people came up with here just show utter ignorance.
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Switched to Freetube/Invidious. Like the sun, I'm never looking directly at Youtube.com ever again.
It might just be a coincidence but I've had a lot of trouble using Invidious or Piped lately too. Videos load and titles load, but video thumbnails don't load for me.
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Steelmanning: perhaps no ARM Linux system was capable of playing 4K reliably until Asahi Linux came along?
Someone on the Hacker News cross-post mentioned it, but it seems like they assumed any ARM Linux device that wasn't detected as running Android was some low-power device like a Raspberry Pi, and didn't anticipate more powerful devices running bog-standard Linux until Apple Silicon and thus Asahi came along.
It's probably the case that this was good intent given the lack of desktop ARM computing hardware, but they really should let the client decide the video quality.
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Asahi Linux?
They named a distro after a beer brand?
Asahi means “rising sun” in Japanese, and it is also the name of an apple cultivar. 旭りんご (asahi ringo) is what we know as the McIntosh Apple, the apple variety that gave the Mac its name.
... They named Macs after a beer brand?
That was fascinating. Thank you for sharing 💖
Lina asahi is steamer who reverse engineering apple m1 chip for Linux, so asahi linux was distro for apple m1 at first
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I think they want everyone to use user agent switcher so that Firefox share will drop and then nobody will support it and will die.
Easy: use a user agent switcher that uses blacklists. Mine only spoofs chrome for youtube.com.
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Disgusting!
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