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[–] appel@whiskers.bim.boats 146 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Smartphone CEOs dumbfounded when no one wants to buy their $1999 xPhone 25 Pro Max XXL Z-Flip 4d-folding hextuple AI 8k camera with Bionic 10Ghz chip including real neurons

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is ironically the same as the $1999 xPhone 24 Pro Max XXL Z-Flip 4d-folding hextuple AI 8k camera with Bionic 10Ghz chip including real neurons from last year.

[–] senicar@social.cyb3r.dog 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, the 25 has a stylus. The 24 didn't. The 26 won't either.

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

You'll have to get the 26+ PRO ULTRA for $2699 if you want the stylus back.

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Thats gonna be my next phone! Guaranteed!

[–] Achird@sh.itjust.works 78 points 1 year ago (31 children)

Not surprising. I used to update every 2 years but my last couple have had a 3 or 4 year gap.

As it should be really. These can be very expensive devices that only make sense if you get a decent life out of them.

[–] penguin@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When smartphones first took off, each new one was a large upgrade. But each passing year sees new phones being more and more iterative. There's hardly any difference at all anymore between individual years.

I'm at the point now where I keep my phones until they break or stop getting security updates.

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[–] FriendlyBeagleDog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I could understand upgrading so frequently at the advent of mainstream smartphones, where two years of progress actually did represent a significant user experience improvement - but the intergenerational improvements for most people's day-to-day use have been marginal for quite some time now.

Once you've got web browsers and website-equivalent mobile apps performing well, software keyboards which keep up with your typing, high-definition video playback working without dropped frames, graphics processing sufficient to render whatever your game of choice is for the train journey to work, batteries which last a day of moderate to intense use, and screen resolutions so high that you can't differentiate the pixels even by pressing your eyeball to the glass - that covers most people's media consumption for the form factor, and there's not much else to offer after that.

[–] OscarRobin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah my semi-techie friend still has an S9+ from over 5 years ago and honestly he isn't really missing anything beyond a few iterative improvements.

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[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago

If the batteries were easily replaceable, and the software didn't continually get bloated, and companies kept issuing security patches, sure.

I kept my last desktop system for 10 years. Actually I still have it and it performs sort of ok (I was running Mint the whole time). But I upgraded and the performance improvement was actually worth the considerable cost. I've gotten similar life out of my other desktops and laptops over the years.

I think at least 5 years or preferably 10 is reasonable for smart phones.

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[–] Doherz@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not surprising when flagship devices have more than doubled in price in over the last decade.

That and the fact that many modern devices feel like compromised devices with purposeful downgrades despite the huge cost increase.

[–] phi1997@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I want a cell phone with a headphone jack, physical navigation buttons, and a rectangular screen like they used to make. At this point, I'll have to go with a flip phone if I want all of those features.

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[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

What do you mean "instead of"? I always heard it was a three year product lifecycle anyway, which is already annoyingly often.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I only replace mine because the batteries are crapping out. Usually it's 3-4 years.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just get a the battery replaced. With the new rule for the EU forcing companies to make the phones with user replaceable batteries, it'll be even easier.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought about it last time but the whole thing where I'm not getting OS updates anymore make me anxious. I'm not sure that's actually a problem though.

[–] anguo@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It's a little more hands on, but when you reach the end of OS updates support, you can switch to a community-supported OS.

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[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i use electronics until they're unusable. my last phone lasted 6 years, my laptop lasted 11 years. i don't have a tv or anything else.

[–] Fantomas@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No TV. How do you watch coronation Street and EastEnders?

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On his smart-kettle, obviously.

[–] Fantomas@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

£8.99 a month for basic kettle. £10.99 for kettle+

[–] LazyBane@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

£2.99 a month for the FastBoil™ setting.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

i limit how much entertainment i consume. it's improved my mood.

[–] Thoth19@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I watch all of my shows from laptop personally (not the person you are replying to). I don't care super hard about the big screen. And it means I can do other things on my other monitors at the same time.

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

I've had my tablet for 9 years, and I'd have had my phone for 4 years now had it not become faulty.

Devices have reached a point that they just don't need upgrading often, unless you're using them for video games or something cutting edge.

And of course, they're super expensive now too, and we're living in the worst cost of living crisis of our generation, struggling to pay for food. Of course we're not going to waste money replacing something that works fine 🤦‍♀️

[–] LazyBane@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I kept my old Sony Xperia right up until I could feel a bulge on the back of it, lol.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't upgrade until the thermal runaway takes my device from me!!! Lol

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[–] shinjiikarus@mylem.eu 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

That is going to be a problem for apple, better make the next iPhone’s battery be unreplaceable and self destruct after 2 years.

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[–] Darkhoof@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Not surprising. For most people smartphone reached a point where replacing every two years is pointless. My phone is also 4 years this year, still holds his battery and works flawlessly.

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[–] Rearsays@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

I don’t see any reason in 2023 to replace my iPhone 12

[–] tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 11 points 1 year ago

Well the networks will try to tie people in for 36/48 months so... they kind of asked for it.

[–] hubobes@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I will buy a new phone when my phone actually dies, broken screens and old batteries can be replaced. And iOS gets updates for like forever.

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[–] o_oli@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeah I mean the processing power and general hardware just got to a point where nobody really needs more. In fact my 4 year old phone has the same amount of RAM and similar processor to my new one lol. Unless you're cutting edge 3D gaming it's not needed to have anything more.

I upgraded only because of battery life, higher Hz screen, newer android version, and to get a wide angle lens. Now I have those even its like...what next? Camera quality is all I ever need, screen Hz is perfect. I'm not sure what will make me upgrade next time but if I replace battery down the line and use a third party OS then maybe it'll go even longer!

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I noticed the same trend for PCs in the last 20 years too. In the late 80s and throughout the 90s, things were advancing at a blistering pace. At the start of 1990, a common configuration was maybe a 20Mhz CPU and 16 MEGAbytes of RAM, and by then end of the decade, we broke the 1Ghz barrier and were putting 512MB-1GB of memory into our machines.

Yet now, I'm still playing recently released 3D games on a first generation quad core i7 from 2009 just fine (as long as nothing in the game starts spewing too many particles).

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[–] Stinkywinks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I've had my moto x4 for 8 years and it's still kicking strong. If it ever dies, I'm getting another.

[–] AnyProgressIsGood@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] zerbey@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Jokes on them, last phone I bought from them was in 1999. Still have it somewhere. Haven't used it since 2000 or so of course.

[–] infix@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Still rocking my iphone X! Upgrade may be in order this September as the battery lasts about an hour and the screen is cracked, but damn good run.

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[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago

Those damn Brits, how dare they?! Buy more, more often!

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I generally upgrade every 4 years too these days, at least the last few times and for the next upgrade. Let's see if I can remember my whole phone list.

  • Motorola M301
  • Ericcson 628 or 688 I don't remember which (or whatever the modified name was on one2one back then)
  • Nokia 8100/8146 (you know, the ACTUAL matrix phone)
  • Gifted Nokia 3110 or 3210 (8100 broke down)
  • Nokia 6100/6126
  • Sony Ericson T68i
  • Sony Z1010 (my first phone with a camera, spoiler alert, it was terrible)
  • iPhone 3GS
  • Samsung Galaxy S2
  • Samsung Galaxy S4
  • Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+
  • Samsung Galaxy S20+ (current)

Wonder if I missed any that were that forgettable?

Generally an upgrade outside of 4 years was because there was a feature I particularly wanted or needed. On early phones this was quite often (think SMS support, WAP, EFR, GPRS). But then contracts were generally for 1 year so it didn't matter too much. Later phones it's been 3G/4G/5G/Wifi calling etc that generally drove upgrades.

[–] Chickerino@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago

ive only upgraded from my 2014 shit phone in 2021, and i plan to do the same with this one for as long as i can

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