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Does anyone know how /e/os compares to graphene os for privacy? I am thinking of getting a murena fairphone which comes with /e/os but supports custom OSs and am leaning towards graphene, but don't know much about e.

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[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Graphene do not support fairphone, but you can use calyxos, which supports fairphone (with verified boot?), and it is more up to date.

In general, I think calyx is probably more up-to-date and secure, with vanilla android experience. /e/ has its own unique athetics, and a SSO cloud service powered by nextcloud (last time I checked, nextcloud dont have good E2EE support, so I personally avoid putting my stuff on a nextcloud server hosted by others. But it is your choice)

[–] HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, looking at their (e) marketing they seem to have a lot of cloud stuff which makes me trust it less. I will probably go with calyx.

[–] Imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Kuketz did a great review of all these roms.

[–] Gush@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is there an english version?

[–] Imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

I just run the link through google translate.

[–] sv1sjp@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Check DivestOS, it uses a lot of things from GrapheneOS + they have crrated their own security tools and applications.

[–] SatyrSack@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use still their Mull browser, even since switching to Graphene

[–] sv1sjp@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Thats the spirit of Open Source!! :))

[–] mossy_capivara@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago

I personally use calyx os and am pretty happy with it, they have a fairphone build

[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I stopped using /e/OS last year and switched to CalyxOS.
The problem I had comes probably from the fact that /e/ tries to cover as many phones as possible (almost 230 as of now) without having a big enough testing pool, so stuff would break constantly even on the "officially supported" devices. And when you pointed out your problem on their forum, the answer you met was frequently something like "the problem is in your phone model, we can't do a lot about it".
Calyx instead supports only Pixel phones and a couple others, including the FP4, it's always tested for good (they have both a stable and a beta branch you can easily switch between) and their android and microG versions are usually more up to date.
Oh, and the Calyx community is one on the nicest and most helpful on the planet

[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

I ran /e/os on my Fairphone 4 for a while. Wasn't a fan of the clearly iOS-inspired launcher or the outdated Android version, so I switched to Iodé, which delivers a more Android-y experience. The built-in, system-wide ad-blocker is great, but recently they added a "premium" model that allows for more rigorous blocking. I'm not sure how I feel about it.
You could also take a look at Ubuntu touch, which updated about a month ago, with improved support for the Fairphone 4.

[–] frap129@lemmy.maples.dev 3 points 2 years ago

Graphene only supports Pixel phones. You could try to port over the device tree, HALs, and build system changes from LineageOS, but you would have to maintain it all yourself and run your own builds. Im using a pixel and I really enjoy graphene, but I'm not sure if it's worth that much effort

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn’t graphene exclusive to pixel phones? (Phones by google)

[–] lemmyuser30@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Yes (it doesn't matter)