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Here we go.... It took them some time but ads is going to be inside chat gpt as well. And impossible to block.

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[–] Saarth@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Companies have already been SEOing LLMs for a few months now. There are companies who have a panel of participants who are willing to share their data, and this is then used to estimate what people might be searching on LLMs and now to optimise content so that it shows up on responses across LLMs.

Ads was the logical direction for LLMs and has always been the only pathway to any substantial revenue.

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Rapid enshittification, people will just use on of the others on the long list of alternatives. I currently recommend either DeepSeek v3.2-Exp or Kimi K2 Thinking.

[–] unpossum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Those already contain ads for the CCP

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

True, if you ask about the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre and other things typically censored by the Chinese government they won't answer. But interestingly, there are variants that have been uncensored, and those models will answer openly if you use something like together.ai versus kimi.com. Because they are open source, they are easily uncensored.

[–] unpossum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

Thanks, that’s nice to know.

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[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is a great way to drive users to competitors.

FYI https://www.deepseek.com/en and https://chat.qwen.ai/ don't have ads.

[–] sobchak@programming.dev 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you're not paying, you're the product. Even on Chinese services. Alibaba does train my favorite local models though (Qwen).

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Both models are open source

[–] sobchak@programming.dev 1 points 4 days ago

Indeed, and I give them credit. China is unironically leading the world in scientific progress. I wouldn't recommend using their services though, for privacy reasons (same with the US).

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

There needs to be laws like yesterday that force tools to disclose if responses are influenced by ads.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

Deepseek here i come

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