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[–] quoll@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

highly recommend https://mailinabox.email/ for setting up and and ticking every compliance box. dmarc, spf etc

unfortunately you can be the best, most compliant host on the planet with the with a cleanest of IP's... google is still going to randomly and silently drop your email to different email addresses. so its pretty much completely untenable for non hobby project.

fuck google so fucking hard

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago

You should be able to clean that up with a relay on a known accepted provider. Sending out emails through Amazon SES should be reasonable without them selling your information.

Selfhosting isn't as clean as it used to be, you pretty much have to buy some form of protection to play.

[–] Forester@pawb.social 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is an amusing thread for me as my day job used to be unfucking postfix and exim servers daily for a fleet of vps and dedi boxes.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

unfucking postfix

This is not a task for the feint of heart, nor was it ever, even back when the technology was first invented. I salute you.

[–] Forester@pawb.social 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Tbf most of the time you just had to clear ssd space and rebuild indices after restarting services as mostly the mail was there but stuck in queue

[–] hereiamagain@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I have no experience with any type of backend mail management or anything like it.

But I do have a corporate email through Microsoft exchange. I hate multiple apps on my phone, so I have it as an extra account in my Gmail app.

And it sucks. I don't get a lot of emails, only the last 3 or 4 emails actually show up in the app.

But my biggest, angriest problem.... Is mail getting stuck in the queue.

If I'm sending a short email? Fine, I can use the app. Fire it off and it'll send immediately.

But if I write a long email? It will say it's sending, it'll sit in the outbox, but it will never.. ever.. send. Ever.

No amount of Wi-Fi cycling or data cycling, cache clearing or phone restarting will ever ever get that email to send. It will just sit there silently failed. Not even acknowledging it's failed when you poke at it, let alone with a notification or something.

The first time I realized it happened, it was an unfortunately important email.

Would you like to guess what the problem is? I pulled my hair out for like a day before figuring it out. I'll put it in a spoiler tag so you can guess.

Again: short emails send immediately, long emails never send, and sit silently failed for eternity.

spoilerWhen you write a long email, at some point it saves a draft. For some reason, that draft is what holds everything up. If I remember correctly, even deleting the draft doesn't make it send.. If ever I forget, and it happens again, I have to copy my whole email to the clipboard, open exchange in the web browser, find the draft (which is never complete, always only half or less of what I wrote) paste my full message into the draft, and then manually send it.

I guess technically it's my own fault, I could just use the exchange app and it would probably solve this. But I don't want to, and I shouldn't have to, email is not new. But it is terrible. Like printers. Bah.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago

Self hosting for years and have none of these issues, but I'm going to migrate soon and will probably be able to use this as a checklist 😐

[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago

Hosting email is bad because the few companies everyone tells everyone to use run email. It is fine if hosting email isn't for you but discouraging others to not try is exactly how we lose ground ona completely open protocol. Everyone who is willing should host email. There are "distros" like mailinabox and mailcow that make it very easy. The more folks that host it the more the larger hosts will have to start to be more of a tram player.

[–] sunstoned@lemmus.org 5 points 6 days ago

Personally I use addy.io (previously anonaddy). Self-hostable and an easy way to get and control your own email @

[–] Uri@infosec.pub 2 points 5 days ago

@xia@lemmy.sdf.org guess i'll block this person, most of their posts are slop

[–] cals11@programming.dev 3 points 6 days ago

I sorta self host my email. Technically aws hosts my email but I've a local postfix and dovecot to serve devices.

That simplifies ip address reputation, dkim, spf, etc. It also provides a backstop if my homelab goes down as messages buffer to s3. I pay a few cents per 1k messages, which effectively means zero.

[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It is great.

Mailcow protected by crowdsec, using SMTP2GO as outbound relay. No issues. I even have Addy.io running without issues.

I only allow inbound port 25. All other ports and access can only be done over WireGuard.

Best part is. My emails stay in my control on a server in Canada.

[–] nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

I just wish mailcow supported podman. Weirdly enough, apparently Docker Mailserver does, but I haven't had the energy to sink time into setting it up

[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"Babe, BABE, listen to me! I don't care about what your friends say, Google dress it up like it's something magical, but it's just IMAP under the hood. That Let's Encrypt cert is better than anything VeriSign will sell you. Now let's review your subscribed folders again, I assure you, you saw that college acceptance letter and filed it and it's your own fault for having client side rules."

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Given the amount of spam selfhosting your email sounds like the 7th circle of hell. Media servers should be enough, thankyouverymuch

[–] kalpol@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

Firewall with pfblocker and good feeds solves most of the problem. Spamassassin and URLBLs still work. It really isn't hard, once you set it up the config never changes. The static IP is by far the worst part.

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