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[–] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 65 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah that’s because they can’t sell your location data to the police.

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] KillerTofu@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because they have to comply with lawful subpoenas for free.

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But they could still sell it for money if they wanted to, that was my point.

[–] ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If it's on sale the nsa probably bought it already to be honest

[–] gosling@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

even if it wasn't, NSA would've probably bought it already anyway

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

I could see them blocking it too maintain an exclusivity deal

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago

Stole. The NSA steals data from companies like Google. That's why, for example, everything in data centers and everything sent between them is encrypted.

[–] Virkkunen@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And also because Google doesn't sell data.

[–] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Hahaha. That’s a joke right?

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Do they sell data or sell services using data they collect? Honest question.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I believe generally not. They sell the results of processed data, but the data is their golden goose. Why sell it wholesale, when you can charge for every use of it?

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That's what I thought. So they do in a sense sell our data but not directly.

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[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Where do I go to buy a list of your location history off Google if it's not true?

[–] cumberboi@beehaw.org 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ok I just went down a very deep internet rabbit hole and went from believing google definitely sells data to it doesn't sell data to it sells data (kinda). I'd recommend this article on RTB's which explains how google advertisements actually work and how they leak your data (including your location).

I'd also recommend watching the short video by Brave linked in the article - I didn't understand the first part but the actual article explains it quite well, the end is the juicy part.

Hope this helps!

[–] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That was quite informative! Thank you for the article.

[–] cumberboi@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

Welcome! :)

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago

You don't kill the golden goose.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 52 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Use Organic maps and continue contributing to openstreetmap

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Have not heard of this but I'm looking into it now. Thanks!

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah street complete ( the app mostly used to contribute to osm) is really cool and a lot of fun

[–] Vendul@feddit.de 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you do crime, leave your phone at home

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 13 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Yeah if you attend a protest, go to church or vote leave your phone at home.

Damn the world is getting crazy

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[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 15 points 10 months ago

I feel like the vast majority of headlines about this stuff could use clarification of "without warrant."

[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Why bother with Google when they can just ask your telco.

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Telco doesn't have the same level of precision I think.

Yes and no

The Telco can say between what antennas you are. In urban areas with lots of antennas that's still pretty accurate to almost say what building. Especially with 5G the number of antennas and accuracy go upto in some cases centimeter/inch accuracy so better than GPS. That last case would be in a mall with small antenna in each corridor.

In rural areas with data switched off that's more like somewhere in that square mile, way worse than GPS.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

They can still access it locally, if Google wanted to protect people then they wouldn’t store location data

[–] TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How about the case where I explicitly want them to store my location data? I mean I really use and like that feature.

[–] RedWizard@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Then store it on the local device where its encrypted.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago

That's what they're doing now.

But it has been encrypted for years.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

I'm using this feature and am looking forward to it becoming on-device.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 10 months ago

Like Apple, Google also doesn't want competitors in collecting user data

[–] jayrodtheoldbod@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago

Oh well, guess I'm still happy about this magic bag i got for going places I don't want Google knowing about.

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