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From the actual study[0]
Human cerebral microvascular endothelial cells (hCMECs) were cultured and treated with 6 mM erythritol, equivalent to a typical amount of erythritol (30 g) in an artificially sweetened beverage, for 3 h.
Am I reading this right? They basically soaked brain cells in diet soda for three hours?
[0] https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00276.2025
Endothelial cells are not the same as neurons. They are the type of cell that form the inner lining on blood vessels (so in direct contact with flowing blood).
I understand that, but they still soaked them in a solution with the same concentration as diet soda.
I was expecting yet another aspartame-bashing article, but it's an erythritol-bashing one this time.
Look, it's really simple: all those sweeteners have been in widespread use for a long time. Wanna know if they're harmful? Do some stats correlating release dates in several countries and occurrence of this-or-that disease and death records. If you can't find a statistically-significant correlation, well... it doesn't prove the stuff is harmless, but chances are it is.
That's assuming there aren't already a kajillion inconclusive studies on the particular molecule you're interested in, as with aspartame.
I don't need to do hours of graduate level health polling and statistics if I only eat what my great grandparents would have recognized as food. Rules of thumb aren't perfect but they're good enough.
I don’t mean to be argumentative but this is a logical fallacy called “appeal to tradition” where something is argued to be correct because it has been historically accepted.
For example, your great grandparents could have had a diet heavy in saturated fats (bacon, etc) and died prematurely from cardiovascular disease, albeit not before they had children. So just because they recognized it as food doesn’t mean it’s a healthy choice for people seeking a healthy, long life.
Compare it to sugar while at it. It doesn’t need to be harmless, it needs to be less harmful than sugar.
And that’s a fairly low bar to cross.
Sugar is like water and air: it's fine in reasonable quantities 🙂
As the saying goes, the dose makes the poison.
And the same goes for all sweeteners too. In fact, I know for a fact that consuming aspartame in large quantities is harmful, because I used to consume entirely too much of it every day by mistake, and I very much felt the effects when I quit.
“…The researchers did not yet test this in people. They went straight to the cells that line your brain’s blood vessels…”
I don't remember giving them consent.
Is this not your signature on a magazine subscription from 1998? Always read the fine print.
Regardless of the methodology used for this study, I’ve switched to pure stevia now. I hate that a lot of stevia products actually use erythritol and just list it in small font.
I've been swapping half of my sugar in my morning coffee with a few drops pure liquid monk fruit. No idea if that's better or worse than erythritol.
I’m not sure either, but I figured if it comes naturally from a plant, it might be safer.
Agreed, but then again, so does arsenic.....
Whatever it does, it makes me feel like shit, so I avoid it.
