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[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 111 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Doesn’t matter the reviews or review bombing to Blizzard. The fact remains that no matter how actually shitty the game is Blizzard is making record profits off of the game.

That’s all Blizzard looks at these days. Is it making them money? And the answer is an abundant yes. So for whatever hate there is, the fact that players are still handing them fistfuls of cash indicates full success to them.

[–] Magiccupcake@startrek.website 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If they're making record profits why did they decide to come to steam?

I think their player numbers have dropped and they're trying to boost them.

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve been mostly out of the loop for overwatch but my guess is so that can have even more recorder profits

[–] dom@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I shudder to think what they'll do for recordest profits

[–] roon@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

They're gonna do the profitiest profit that anyone has ever profited

[–] ABotelho@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More money.

That's literally any of this is lol

[–] fuzzywolf23@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Steam takes 30%. If they thought they could drive people to their standalone launcher they would be doing that

[–] Whom@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It seems most likely to me that it's prep for the rest of the Microsoft deal so they can claim to regulators they aren't using their ever-growing control to choke out other platforms. Same reason they're making those promises about Call of Duty on Switch.

[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

I guess this could be a glass half full kind of situation.

But they also are not making as much money as they could have if they delivered on a good game. Even if they got only 5% of steam, that is still 95% of steam that didn't buy it.

Sure, you can make the argument that they still got into a new market. However, if your product was scientifically engineered to appeal to the most demographics, then only 5% of that market is concerning.

[–] Hellebert@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The situation kind of reminds me of titty streamers on Twitch. Everybody seemingly "hates" them yet they make an absolute killing regardless, because the silent majority think it's perfectly fine.

[–] red@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

While I completely understand the hc gamer community hating the game, I personally, as a 37 yo working person, have had co-op and solo fun for over 200h with a few friends.

For me, that's well worth the price of the game. And no I won't be buying any passes and I won't even finish season 1 because there's nothing really that new there, but objectively D4 was a good fucking game, especially for couch co-op lovers.

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[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 18 points 1 year ago

But it's blizzard who bombed their own game...

[–] Faulty@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

9% of 75K reviews are positive. I'm very curious how many will be removed. Also does Blizzard have a review system for their games? Curious how these reviews could be considered "off topic" if there's no first-party system to compare them to.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The reviews don't get removed, they're just hidden by default. And it's considered off topic if the content of the reviews is about something that a team at Valve determines to be unlikely to help a new player decide if they want to play the game.

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Like this "review":

[–] sardior@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

The steam post that is referring to is about 3 1/2 years old.

[–] BabaYaga@reddthat.com 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For what it’s worth, pcgamer.com just had an article talking about this. They said it’s not really review bombing but more of a pulse check on how gamers feel about OW2. Battle.net doesn’t have a review system so this is just the first opportunity for gamers to express how they feel about the game in this way

[–] squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago

Well, there is the MetaCritic user score too. It currently sits at 1.4, so it should surprise nobody.

[–] Tinkerer@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago

Good riddance, literally overwatch 1 game with more .icro transactions. Not to mention they took down overwatch 1 so you can't play it anymore.... not to me tonight the co-op was suppose to come out and be free they said nope we aren't doing it, then they did it and it's a paid feature as far as I know now. Blizzard is the worst

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago

And thats where it fricking belongs.

[–] Kaliax@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago

If there was a proper way for people to express the problem then that would be great. But, as it stands with F2P games, and ones as complicated as Overwatchs history, well, fucking Steam slaughter is AN option for most. Fuck the game and company, there are no redeeming values. Even if these there is a dilution of review efficacy, oh well.

[–] Magnus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Review bombing is the only impactful way in recent years that has worked against these large publishers. Plus Overwatch is F2P so the old trick of just saying don't buy it doesn't work, they will still get a player base with giant "whales".

Edit: Never played the game btw

[–] LinyosT@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Last I checked the game was 13th highest in revenue globally on steam according to the stats available on steam. So the negative reviews don’t seem to be making much impact at all. They still seem to be pulling in plenty of money from their MTX and the bundles available through steam.

Remember these companies only look at the funny profit line. If that goes up despite negative reviews then nothing will change.

[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Legit surprised it's this bad, tbh. I was expecting some amount of people to review bomb it, but thought that at worst it'll maybe hang around "mixed". Let's be honest, besides the monetization model, it's a fairly solid game, and I assumed many people were willing to overlook it (because it's a "free game", blegh).

2023 starting to shape up to be the year where megacorps overreach a bit too much and/or consumers to finally grow a backbone.

I actually went through some of the positive reviews, seems they are only thumbs up because I assume people want their posts to be read - a lot of them are just memes and shitposts.

[–] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 2 points 1 year ago

I was initially also a bit surprised by the amount of it, but after thinking about it for a bit, Blizzard seems to have engineered the perfect conditions for this to happen:

  1. Create a massively successful game for PC, which also creates a giant group of people who care about the game.
  2. Make a bunch of bad decisions, which are particularly bad for the existing user base.
  3. Only then release the game on Steam, meaning there are no positive reviews from the launch period and a bunch of disgruntled former players, all of which are allowed to review the game because the game has become F2P.
[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

Review bombing seems so silly

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When did Flatout 3 move out of the top spot?

I first read it as Fallout 3, and thought that can't be right!

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly I'm hoping Blizzard will release all their other games on steam as well. If they get review bombed and Overwatch does poorly though, it will lower the chance of that happening.

[–] rastilin@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Do we really want more of their cash grabs on Steam? Their old stuff was great, but now the ship has sailed and their newest stuff just isn't that good anymore. Especially after the latest Diablo 4 patch.

[–] EremesZorn@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Nah, there's enough garbage on Steam as it is, we don't need any more. Fuck Blizz.

[–] Zoldyck@discuss.online 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Battlenet is on Steam these days?

[–] CraigeryTheKid@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] roon@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does it launch the game by itself or does it do the Ubisoft thing when it launches the launcher to launch the game?

[–] lupec@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It launches the game by itself, no (perceivable) launcher

[–] gabriele97@lemmy.g97.top 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why all this hate for OW2?

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally all the worst parts of modern gaming made by one of the worst companies.

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm in my late 30s and I remember when Blizzard was highly respected in the industry. sigh, how the mighty have fallen.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Absolutely nobody from the golden age of.Blizz still works there.

Studios are people, not brands.

[–] loobkoob@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is stupid. I have no love for Overwatch or Blizzard - I've been boycotting them for years, in fact. But there are far, far worse games on Steam than OW2. The fact that, to my knowledge, it runs properly, doesn't have crypto miners built into it, and isn't just made from stolen assets already puts it at like a 5/10 at minimum.

I'm all for consumers standing up for themselves and being critical or poor products, but I really wish people wouldn't get caught up in these hate bandwagons.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

People feel overwhelmingly negative about the game. This is an accurate representation of that. I don't see the issue here. It's one of the few ways to get Blizzard to actually listen, they can't ignore the public perception here like they do on literally every other platform. It's a massive money hungry studio, no need to defend or feel bad for them.

[–] CumBroth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Correct me if I'm wrong (I've never left a Steam review before), but isn't the way Steam reviews work is that you either leave a thumbs up or a thumbs down? There doesn't seem to be any rating scale. The "score" displayed on this page is presumably based on the ratio between positive and negative reviews, and the only thing it tells you is that about 90% of players aren't convinced that whatever the game has to offer earnes it a recommendation, not that they all thought it deserved a 1 out of 10.