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Make sure to opt-out of analytics and telemetry with Proton. Mullvad and iVPN are solid though. 

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I've always been a little chicken to dig deeper myself since I don't own any crypto or anything of the sort nor am I willing to link my bank details to it, but anybody know anything about Cryptostorm VPN? I only know about it from stumbling across it on one of those Hidden Wiki type onion sites.

I also found another one I'm probably a little wary of, called Njalla VPN, from some supposedly privacy focused domain name registrar, Njalla, supposedly out of Costa Rica according to their onion site.

I doubt either are all that private, but I have no way to confirm or deny that.

[–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago

In case it swings your judgement either way, Njalla is run by one of the three Piratebay founders.

[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

There are only three good ones, in no particular order:

  • IVPN
  • Mullvad
  • Proton

Any other VPN used is a mistake.

[–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago

Centralization and monoculture is a mistake.

[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago

It's also worth noting that Proton is the only one with port forwarding.

[–] RyanDownyJr@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've used AirVPN for over a year now. No complaints. Mullvad stopped port forwarding so had to swap. Recently moved email to proton so might move VPN over soon too.

[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's a reason why I didn't mention Air instead of those three I named:

  • All three I named are the following:
    • Free Software (libreware, despite being SaaS)
    • Outside 5-Eyes and 9-Eyes
    • AES-256
    • Audited

So which one of these criterias are not met by AirVPN?

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it’s good idea to not put all your eggs in one basket, so having a different vpn provider from your email would be safer. Up to you though.

[–] RyanDownyJr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

This is something else that crossed my mind. Not like the $20 a year or whatever is going to break my bank paying separately....

[–] mEEGal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

AzireVPN is the best in my opinion

[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've never heard about it. I just took a look, and it's from the Malwarebytes guys. My issue with it is that it's proprietary, save for a lone BASH script that happened to be under GPL-2.0, which allows for tivoization.

[–] mEEGal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

They're Swedish, but the company was bought by Malwarebytes later on

What piece of software are you talking about ?

[–] gigachad@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (5 children)

As someone who is new to VPNs for privacy - Could I combine let's say Mullvad with a VPN-based ad blocker on Android, e.g. RethinkDNS or AdAway?

[–] blueberry_793@lemmings.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Mullvad has an option in the settings to enable their own DNS filters.

[–] French75@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Mullvad VPN works well on Android and has some DNS based ad blockers & content filters in the VPN app (though off by default iirc). Mullvad browser is not ported to Android.

That said, it's important to understand that VPNs don't provide privacy in any absolute sense. They can (maybe) obscure data about your browsing habits from your ISP. But they won't stop all the other, more effective tracking exists nearly everywhere else on the web.

[–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

One thing to keep in mind as new is that "VPN" is a technical term with pretty clear meaning among the technical people but it has a very fuzzy meaning in marketing and branding. Referring here to "VPN apps" that may just be a local DNS relay (ie: it will only tunnel and filter your DNS requests; all your actual traffic still goes through your normal connection as clear as always). Oftentimes, it's what we would call a proxy. Android has not at all helped here.

In either case, yes, you can usually chain things. What if any benefits you get from that depends on both technical specifics (which protocols) and your circumstances and threat model.

For example, if we consider only Wireguard (one of the VPN protocols Mullvad offers).

No VPN/proxy: Your ISP sees everything

1 proxy: ISP sees that you are connecting to proxy but not what servers you're actually talking to. VPN provider now sees everything instead.

2 proxies: Proxy A sees your encrypted traffic to Proxy B. Proxy B sees all your traffic but doesn't know where you are.

3 proxies: Congratulations, you have manually built a shitty onion circuit (Tor works like this)

Mullvad has their own "multi-hop" feature which chains two Mullvad nodes but i have to question using that strictly for privacy reasons, considering it's by the same provider and the ports make it predictable from the ISP.

[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

You can combine VPN and DNS-based ad blocking, usually. Mullvad has it's own dns server with ad filter. However you can use any other.

I don't think Android supports two different VPNs.

[–] gnuthing@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Proton includes an ad blocker built in

[–] neonrain@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A buddy of mine loves PIA. I've only started looking around but any reason why I wouldn't use PIA?

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

Yep, Kape... an Israeli malware distributor.

[–] phar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Damnit, I've always loved PIA. Crap.

[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

PIA is Israeli now (Kape Technologies, a malware distributor).