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Maine barred Donald Trump from the primary ballot Thursday, making it the second state in the country to block the former president from running again under a part of the Constitution that prevents insurrectionists from holding office.

The decision by Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows (D) is sure to be appealed. The Colorado Supreme Court last week found Trump could not appear on the ballot in that state, and the Colorado Republican Party has asked the U.S. Supreme Court to review the case. The nation’s high court could resolve for all states whether Trump can run again.

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[–] 2piradians@lemmy.world 196 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I like candidates who weren't barred.

[–] Hereforpron2@lemmynsfw.com 86 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I like guys who weren't captured, and fingerprinted, mugshotted, and booked.

[–] troybot@midwest.social 51 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Wasn't captured, actually he surrendered like a complete and utter loser

[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Were you holding out for a foot chase?

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

His fatass can't even run for President

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 10 months ago

Golf cart trundling down the interstate, a thousand cop cars in pursuit, OJ Simpson style.

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[–] Hereforpron2@lemmynsfw.com 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

And then sold merchandise with his mugshot with the caption "Never Surrender." The mugshot from when he literally surrendered. And MAGA folks bought the stuff proving that they'll buy anything to prove their "MAGA-ness."

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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 141 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Royal also argued that Trump violated Section 3, while Gordon’s challenge took a different tack, arguing that Trump is not eligible to be on the ballot because he claims to have won the 2020 election, which would have been his second term. The 22nd Amendment states that no person shall be elected to the office of president more than twice.

The other arguments are Colorado redux

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 110 points 10 months ago (2 children)

arguing that Trump is not eligible to be on the ballot because he claims to have won the 2020 election, which would have been his second term. The 22nd Amendment states that no person shall be elected to the office of president more than twice.

Oh thats clever!

"The 14th Amendment Constitution says you, an insurrectionist, cannot be on the ballot"

Trump: "I'm not an insurrectionist! I was defending my election to office in 2020!"

"Ah, okay then so you're admitting that you're trying to run for a 3rd term in violation of the 22nd Amendment of the Constitution

[–] frezik@midwest.social 61 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Clever, but no. He didn't get a second term, and his whining in a corner doesn't change that.

[–] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (6 children)

But for him to publicly admit that... it might snap a few people out of the illusion.

...I hope.

[–] hdnsmbt@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (14 children)

They don't care if he admits it or if it's true. They only care about what he instructs them to care about. Please, we must all start to understand this otherwise it's us living in an illusion.

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[–] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Obviously they're not operating in good faith, so they'll come up with some nonsense justification as to why president loser deserves a 3rd term or something anyway. But that's still a novel approach.

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 98 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (18 children)

If this picks up steam, we could very well see another Republican candidate (most likely DeSantis) win the nomination and become Joe Biden's opponent.

On the other hand, the SCOTUS is Republican controlled. They already got Roe V Wade overturned and could very well rule in Trump's favour.

Part of me truly worries that America will be the first to fall to a new wave of Fascism, and that this will spur further swings in Europe. (AfD are performing alarmingly well in East Germany, whilst Le Pen has been closer than ever before to winning the French presidency.)

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 69 points 10 months ago (4 children)

DeSantis would get fucking wrecked in a national race, Biden's team would laugh their asses off, then get back to sending crib-seeking missiles to Netanyahu.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Careful, that's exactly what we said about Trump.

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You underestimate just how disliked Biden is, and how many Americans honestly believe that Trump had the last election stolen from him.

Also, the fact that Trump survived two impeachments, spurred an attempted insurrection and is only now starting to face state/federal charges that in any other democracy would have had him immediately struck off from the ballot is worrying. It's set precedent that could allow a more sane, manipulative and competent candidate to commandeer the country.

The only possible good that could come out of a DeSantis nomination would be if Trump ran as an independent in protest and heavily split the right wing vote, which would guarantee a second Biden term.

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 52 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If this picks up steam, we could very well see another Republican candidate (most likely DeSantis) win the nomination and become Joe Biden’s opponent.

That's the entire point, isn't it? To prevent the insurrectionist from being on the ballot, not "prevent the republicans from being on the ballot."

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 71 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Maine is one of two states (Nebraska is the other) that doesn't give all their electoral votes to the popular vote winner in their state. Trump got one electoral vote there in both 2016 and 2020.

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[–] PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world 68 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Seriously. We ALL SAW it on Jan 6! Dude wrecked our countries record of peaceful transition all because he threw a bitch ass tantrum. Thanks, jerk.

[–] KnowledgeableNip@leminal.space 55 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If anyone's arguing the other way... Where was the national guard? An angry mob attacked our highest ranking politicians at the nations capital and it was less defended than your average Walmart on Black Friday. In the end Pence had to call them in despite Trump watching the entire thing unfold on live TV.

It was an orchestrated attempted coup, full stop.

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[–] Yokozuna@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I really wish that he wasn't stopped from attending it like he wanted too, this would be such an open and shut thing if otherwise. Now the courts are all hung up on if he participated or not. He obviously fucking caused it but you know, due process and all.

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[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 52 points 10 months ago (17 children)

When Republican states start doing this to democratic candidates for basically no reason, then democracy is completely over.

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[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 44 points 10 months ago

Let’s keep this going folks!

[–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 30 points 10 months ago (9 children)

The Constitution doesn't give the deciding power to the SCOTUS, it requires a 3/4 vote of Congress to resolve this.

It's completely unconstitutional for the SCOTUS to be making the final decision. They should be the ones penalizing any state that doesn't remove him from the ballot for violating the Constitution.

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[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are we going to pretend SCOTUS isn't going to install him, like they did with Bush?

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[–] Insig@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What does this even mean? If he allowed in all the other states and wins. Do these 2 states have to follow suit? Do they elect their own president? Are they independent for the interim?

[–] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Lincoln didn’t qualify to be on the ballot in 10 out of 11 Confederate states. In Virginia northerners were successful in getting enough signatures to get him on but he got basically no votes.

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[–] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This might be a play to get him to admit he didn't win a second term.

Maybe it's wishful thinking, and the most ardent cultists will just pivot... but a girl can dream. It might snap some people out of the illusion.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe if this happens in enough states, it'll compell the Supreme Court to rule favorably.

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[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Nice!

E: doubly nice because Maine actually wasn't a 100% D state in the last 2 elections. They went 1/4 to Trump in both 2016 and 2020.

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