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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by HughJanus@lemmy.ml to c/privacyguides@lemmy.one
 

P2P network with no servers. Added "communities" with Facebook-like posts (my preference). Looks cool but it's missing a lot of details and it seems like there's almost no one using it at the moment, despite feeling very polished.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No source code. Don't trust it

[–] Kwdg@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also their blog talks about web3 stuff which is a red flag for me too

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 1 points 2 years ago

Web3 isn't crypto, it means peer-to-peer web

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Where are you seeing that there's no source code?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

no links to code on the webpage or faq

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That doesn't mean it doesn't exist

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Source code exists for all programs. Sure. Did the developers of this program make their code available somewhere? i can't prove they didn't, but they are not helping by not making it clearly available.

If you want people to trust/use a new privacy focused end to end encrypted protocol/program then code must be released for people to have any hope of trusting you.

Otherwise your just yet another facebook clone.

At this point with the code not readily available, my advice is to forget about this project.

P.S. If the developer released their code on a old usb-stick duct taped to the back of a wawa bathroom toilet on a new jersey turnpike..... they are only demonstrating how far from the privacy mindset they really are.

[–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

no one said it doesnt exist, just we cant see it and read it ourselves to verify its doing what its saying its doing

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

no one said it doesnt exist,

That's incorrect. The person I replied to said it didn't exist.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 22 points 2 years ago

"No Source Code"

Forgive me if my English was too casual/ambiguous. All programs have source code somewhere. I was trying to indicate it wasn't available on the website.

[–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They meant no source code users can access themselves

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] prenatal_confusion@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago

Name checks out.

[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Dev's email is gmail. First red flag. And their social media profile are Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Not to mention that all I can read about their "protocol" is shitty marketing speak. There's no technical whitepaper. And there's no code. It seems to be proprietary software which is enough reason to run away from it. Together with the rest of things, it looks like either it's a honeypot or (more probably) a fake privacy initiative trying to grab some money/data from non technical users

[–] Sleepkever@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The biggest red flag is probably that they claim to just be the WireMin protocol, but haven't published any protocol specifications. In the spirit of open and unmoderated communication I would hope they would at least publish their protocol specifications, even if they won't opensource their own client for it.

[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

as it's usually the case with these shady proprietary super duper secure messengers they probably don't have a protocol of their own. The dev probably took any other IMs source code, made a few changes to the UI and now is trying to grab some cash or data from the few people that install it.