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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Hugohase@kbin.social 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Same shit, different year. I hate them all with a passion. Lets kill the planet for short term profits...

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But they'll be dead by that time, so fuck the rest of us.

[–] SteefLem@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That is basically it, or they think they will be on mars. Which is funny because we have trouble landing a rover on mars and they think they gonna live there

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Or they think carbon capture at scale will eventually turn out to be successful by the unrelenting tenacity of human ingenuity.

[–] SteefLem@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Maybe they should leave some forests that will actually help. Natures carbon capture. But yeah… money…

[–] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They're hosting a climate change conference in Azerbaijan? A country that's mainly known for its oil production?

Are the UN even trying to pretend they're acting in our best interest at this point?

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There are regional rotation rules, and Russia vetoed every other possible location in the region

[–] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

So Russia alone can influence the outcome to the point of making the entire conference a laughing stock. Seems like a pretty big fuck up to me.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The whole UN is like that; it functions as a forum to talk, not an effective place to set policy.

[–] meat_popsicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

So, pointless in this effort then. Cool.

[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Reminder that Saudi Arabia has a whole-ass plan to actually surge and increase oil consumption. They also reached out to people during COP28 at the UAE for oil deals with other countries.

Climate Town has a really good video about how fucked the COP is becoming, apparently.

EDIT: I am double-stupid. Edited for accurate message.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

COP28 was in the UAE, not Saudi Arabia

[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago

Totally got them mixed up, fixed my comment. Thanks!

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 8 points 9 months ago

And the on after that will be in Brazil, which is already trying to become an OPEC+ member.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So these are the people trying to kill the planet. So we need a group of international representatives to do the opposite. 29Poc.

[–] SuiXi3D@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

I’d argue that they aren’t specifically trying to make the planet uninhabitable for life as we know it, they’re just trying to make a boatload of money selling a product whose side effect is that the more of it that’s used, the faster the planet becomes Mercury 2.