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[–] L3s@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

People can't be civil, locking.

[–] h54@programming.dev 240 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Isn't their slogan "shop like a billionaire?". This tracks.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 29 points 5 days ago

I know Temu uses that slogan. Are they owned by the same people? Would make sense, if so.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Billionaires rape real children.

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[–] wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe 85 points 5 days ago (28 children)

I don't understand this. They're dolls, they aren't alive. Why people would care? This may be controversial, but I'd rather have a pedophile fucking a doll than raping a child

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 74 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Exactly. Same with faux bait stuff. I personally think it's gross so I don't consume it, but if everyone is a consenting adult and it stops people from consuming real CSAM I can't really support banning it.

But the problem many people have with stuff like that is they assume the people consuming it will go on to do it to real people, which is the same argument they tried to use against violent video games.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It wouldn’t compel me to hurt people, but I definitely get more into kinks the more time I spend with them (to a point). Violence in media has never had a noticeable effect on me though.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Society would probably actually benefit from a non political purely objective science-based commission to review published data, make recommendations for new studies, and come up with an evidence-based recommendation to governments about whether virtual CSAM (no actual children harmed or in AI training data) and lifelike child sex dolls result in statistically more child predation.

I haven't deep dived on this so maybe it's already well known among sociologists/psych pathologists. But the key is a trusted science-based policy. We did it for violent video games and found no correlation. Not at all obvious to me if that also holds for pederasty.

Yeah I know, the trusted scientific commission is not going to happen

[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 23 points 5 days ago (12 children)

whether virtual CSAM (no actual children harmed or in AI training data) and lifelike child sex dolls result in statistically more child predation.

It could but I doubt that it would. Pedophiles don't rape children - rapists do. Being both is rare. Having been born with attraction to children doesn't mean they automatically also lack a moral compas and self-control. Most of them know it's wrong and never offend. The vast majority of people in prison for child sexual abuse aren't pedophiles but just good old rapists. Kids simply make an easy target.

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[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 17 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It's a moral panic - pure and simple. The same reason some countries want to ban cartoon/animated pictures where the fictional character looks too young. I guess the underlying assumption there is that it'll increase the number of people offending towards real children but I don't think there's any evidence to back that up.

If it was up to me, the criteria would be whether an actual person is being hurt directly or as a consequence of. That would include real violence, real pictures and possibly also GenAI stuff if it's trained on real content.

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[–] zach@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I believe the last time something like this came up, the argument was raised that it normalizes the behavior and leads to escalation, i.e. “they’re just illustrations” “it’s just a doll” to “I’m just taking photos” or “it’s just touching”, this time against actual victims

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 38 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Slippery slope fallacy. We know that consumption of real CSAM might increase frustration and lead to pursuit of real crimes. However, we don't have the same level of evidence for illustrations or sex dolls. It's a massive blind side in the scientific literature. It's very hard to study.

Despite this, the number one risk factor still remains unsupervised access to minors. Regardless of whether the abuser consumes abuse media or not.

[–] RaoulDuke85@piefed.social 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They said same sex marriage would lead to bestiality

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[–] Feyd@programming.dev 10 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Does the research support this argument though? (Spoiler: it doesn't)

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[–] ulterno@programming.dev 7 points 5 days ago

They are making these legislations to steer people's focus away from the real CSA.

Remember. CSAM is just the symptom. CSA being the actual cause.

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[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago (38 children)

I don't think that banning this kind of product will solve the fact that there are people with a disorder. So what's the point? Moralism?

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[–] Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 26 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Ngl any reason to block shein is good.

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[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sex dolls resembling weapons is where I draw the line.

Ok the kid ones are bad too.

[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I read the entire article looking for this and couldn't find anything and I'm so confused. Did they mean to say "Selling weapons and sex dolls resembling children"?

Or are we literally talking about Desert Eagle Fleshlights?

Edit: I just realized that "Selling weapons and sex dolls resembling children" is equally as confusing. The weapons resemble children? A Glock 9mm-year-old

[–] felbane@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"Now everyone can get fucked by the 2nd amendment!"

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 7 points 5 days ago

Worst situation to yell "I'm shooting my load"

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