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One of the biggest pain points for Windows 11 users in recent years is Microsoft's insistence to log into an online account to access Windows 11. Seemingly as part of the Windows team's recent initiative to address community feedback, Microsoft may be moving towards a Windows 11 that no longer requires that online account login at the initial setup. While no official plans have been confirmed, Scott Hanselman, a Microsoft Partner Product Manager and VP of Developer Community, recently hinted at the change in a post on X. This announcement comes after Microsoft revealed plans to improve Windows 11 memory management and the overall user experience.

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[–] mysticalone@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Boy that macbook announcement really rattled them

[–] passenger@sopuli.xyz 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 14 points 20 hours ago

probably about the Macbook Neo (cheap new apple laptop)

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Too late for most every user who switched to Linux. Who the fuck would want all the garbage they force you into in modern windows?

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 16 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Also you can't really trust all these "rollback" claims they are throwing around at the moment. We know what Microslop thinks is the future of their OS, because they have literally poured billions of dollars into AI development. This is just them attempting to sugarcoat their giant turd, lure people into feeling obligated to continue with Windows 11 as they will then gradually turn up the sloppification again.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Exactly right. Most any time a company only changes due to backlash, you can never trust them again. And Microsoft never was a company to be trusted from the beginning.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 19 hours ago

I trust them somewhat, because it would be in Microsoft's best interest to maintain a monopoly on the OS market and to appease their business customers. Admitting their mistakes also puts them in a more vulnerable position than if they'd just pretended nothing was the matter.

[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Rather than all the setup bullshit just throw us straight into the desktop and let us take it from there. It's a pain having to click through a bunch of crap.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 12 hours ago

I mean the setup thing is important though. Things like setting up a local account are mandatory and super important. That's why most Linux distros have something similar. I will agree that it should be skippable though, for advanced users.

[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

🤫Linux with Plasma does exactly this

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Did this and didn't look back.

[–] TheOctonaut@piefed.zip 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

What is linux? I've heard of it, but when I search the Microsoft store, but all I see are a bunch of black Notepad looking apps. I've heard it is free. Is there a paid one with no ads? How much are the add-ons? How do I play Fortnite if it's all just text? I'm so confused.

Is what I would say if I weren't also a Linux user.

I know, I use it 🫡

[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I did win 11 install like this:

  1. Install windows
  2. On login screen create a throwaway Account (mine was somthing like noAccount253@outlook.com)
  3. Decline all the adware
  4. in Settings create new Account
  5. say you don’t know the ms Account of that user
  6. chose to set up user without ms Account
  7. upgrade new user to admin
  8. log in as newly created user
  9. delete user lonked to burner MS Account

Nice Little Side effect is, that like this, MS gets flooded with dead accounts 😁

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

During install, you can opt to login as a business or school user, then just opt to create a local account on that page.

No microsoft account needed.

https://youtu.be/KuV5jkCXsFY

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Shift + F10 and running OOBE\BYPASSNRO still worked for me last month. Depends on what update of Win 11 is on the system (I think up to 24H2 is fine).

Otherwise, I've had success doing Shift+F10 and running ipconfig /release to break the network connection at the sign in screen.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

25H2 still supports it. I just did the reset option on a fully updated 25H2 machine and it had no issues.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Thanks for checking, fuckwit.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago

That method right there is why I never understood all the people bemoaning they they removed registry entries, needed shift-f10 and stuff like that.

Business -> Domain Join -> Create a local account. Done. And it works in current releases too as I just did it with an iso downloaded from Microsoft two weeks ago.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

That is clever. Sure is sad though that you have to trick Microsoft into not requiring bullshit. If they were better at programming you wouldn't be able to trick them.

[–] h3ron@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You can just add an xml to your win11 iso. You can do a lot of things with it, like skipping the privacy answers, setting the dark theme (even if you don't activate windows), preventing the microslop store from preinstalling adware, disabling disk encryption or even preinstalling virtio drivers for qemu-kvm.

https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/

If you just want to skip the online account there's always Rufus, which is the easiest way to add that xml to your iso.