After WW2 65 million people were dead and 50% of the boys and men in Germany were dead. Everyone loses with fascism
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As a Millennial this is basically how I feel about Gen Z. Why are they so apathetic regarding everything? If anyone gets passionate about anything because they want something done about the rise of fascism, you get labeled as "crashing out"! It's annoying as fuck!
Stop crashing out... :)
No but I think its because of never ending negative things happening. People stop to care because they cant affect it.
As a millennial who remembers massive climate change and anti Iraq war protests I get it.
Trump was elected under millennials, not Z. Americans in general are apathetic - it's a culture issue, not a generational one.
I see that difference extremely clearly now that I live in Finland.
“The youngest voters and those entering middle age tacked hard to the right. Gen X — which slightly favored president-elect Donald Trump with a one-point margin in 2020 — shifted 9 points toward Trump this cycle. Gen Z favored Vice President Kamala Harris by 11 points, compared to 24 points for President Joe Biden.
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Gen Z's big shift to the right wasn't entirely unexpected. Teens were twice as likely to identify as more conservative than their parents compared to millennials 20 years ago, per a Gallup and Walton Family Foundation study conducted last fall.”
-Business Insider
This isn't even the stupidest point of accelerationism. That's the assumption that your personal utopia will emerge from the ashes, instead of something much worse.
The simple fact of the matter is that there is no path to "perfect" which doesn't track through an infinite amount of "better" first.
Reminds me of this meme:

Or this one:

Yeah the take plays against their point and into the hands of fascists. A common retort from "capitalists" goes "well why doesn't your economic system compete on the free market? If it's so good it will rise to the top." You believing your ideology will defacto rise from a blank slate after society collapses lends credence to that argument. (Which is flawed in so many ways)
Obviously, we shouldn’t need to detail “villains bad” in media, but with so many of them having “from the ashes” plans, I’d like to see more heroes deconstructing their approach like this.
Okay, but capitalism dystopia is not going to look like that. In real capitalism, that wall will be covered in advertisements and motivation posters.
Me and who 😳
get shot rearing an ad for Amazon(tm) Bezz-box(r) rented apartments on Mars.
No need to market to you when they simply extract your labour and rent and you buy the swill that is cheapest to you.
When you lay it out like that it does sound quite idiotic doesn't it?
The real solution btw is just a better consensus mechanism in our electoral process in the form of STAR Voting.
It is quite literally that simple.
The lack of choice (as explained in Duverger's Law) is what kills our politics and helps the media portray all political battles as us vs them and not "What shade out of a million shades of gray should this policy be?".
tl;dr - STAR Voting is quite literally a panacea for nearly all the extreme ills that plague our politics - even a large portion of "voting doesn't matter so I won't" apathy....because to vote "strategically" under STAR Voting is to just vote honestly and every vote matters. No revolution required - just a better electoral process. I'm happy to answer any questions.
Someone do a version of the comic with this guy’s comment as the text of the first panel, please.
Once it's done?
Facissm doesn't end on its own. It needs to get pushed out.
Almost nobody is arguing this maybe i should give you the benefit of the doubt but I just can't people hating your "nicer" imperialist genocidal capitalists don't believe this.
Please use punctuation.
Accelerationism isn't just being apathetic, it's actively making things worse. It's voting for Trump because the DNC didn't elect Bernie Sanders.
Lenin was much the same. He knew a revolution wouldn't happen if things got better, so he did everything he could to make things as bad as humanly possible. When the provisional government came along, granted free speech rights and universal suffrage, Lenin was vehemently opposed to it, because you can't have a communist revolution when stuff is going well. A stable government is not one you can overthrow.
I think you forgot the part where the provisional government wanted to keep drafting people to feed into the pointless meat grinder of WWI, which Lenin opposed rather strongly.
Pretty much the same plan as the Republicans, right? They were all about burning it down but plenty of them are arriving at the “Dude!” stage.
Accelerationism is really dumb which is why it's such a popular strawman.
Does someone have a different opinion? Well, it could be that different people have different ideas about how the world works as well as different priorities. But that's all complicated and nuanced and forces you to contend with different perspectives. Instead, just assume that everyone has your perspective because it's just inherently obvious to everyone, but some people are intentionally trying to make things worse because they're stupid and evil.
Virtually no one is an actual accelerationist.
Yep very few actual believers but if you don't support their "pragmatic" suggestions that throw billions under the bus they accuse you of this.