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[–] dance_ninja@lemmy.world 76 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I feel like I can hear the Technology Connections guy take a deeeeep inhale and a long exhale.

[–] GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zone 40 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Cort@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

outro followed by sickeningly smooth jazz

[–] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 81 points 5 days ago (2 children)

oh look another bullshit startup intended only to appear game changing long enough to enrich some greedy founders. im sure this will fundamentally change the world of heat pumps for the better. totally.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 52 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Barocalorics is a really important field right now. I don’t actually think this category of tech is bullshit based on the core research I’ve been following.

Maybe this particular startup is, but the field is actually ready for a breakthrough. We need startups to take the risk of doing an initial manufacturing run or nothing will ever happen.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 days ago

This is the breakthrough. Now they need to prove it as a product and scale it up for manufacturing.

[–] bcgm3@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

You're gonna feel real silly when you look around and see the rest of us all squeezing our new refrigerators to keep our groceries cold.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Omg what difficult to mine and impossible to recycle material is this breakthrough gonna take?

[–] justastranger@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

The only hint in the article is that it's going to be an organic substance as a plastic crystal. Their website claims that it's a powder whose elemental composition is exclusively carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen. The difficult and expensive materials are likely to be limited to synthesis equipment and catalysts, with petrochemicals used to synthesize the actual refrigerant.

[–] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Probably petrochemicals.

[–] homes@piefed.world 20 points 4 days ago

OK, that sounds nice, but until it’s a commercially available product, I won’t hold my breath

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Doesn't squeezing add energy to a system? In other words, make it hotter. My tiny brain can't break rules of thermodynamics.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 37 points 4 days ago

Yes. You are always adding net energy to the system. That's why a heater is a self-contained unit (turns energy into heat) while an air conditioner requires two units- one to suck up the heat outside, another to reject that heat outside. It's not 'creating cold', it's using energy to pump heat from the inside to the outside. The total amount of heat rejected outside is a net addition- it's the heat sucked up from inside, plus the waste heat from the compressor.

The air conditioner (current design) works on the simple principle that the boiling point of a liquid changes based on ambient pressure, and that phase change (between liquid and gas) carries a lot of latent energy. To boil water with heat alone, it takes about 100 calories to heat a gram of water from just above freezing to just below boiling. But to boil it, to heat it less than one more degree and turn it into gas, takes another 433 calories. That means if you adjust its boiling point by pressurizing and depressurizing it, whenever it boils or condenses it'll suck up or release a lot of heat at the same time.

Obviously we want colder than 100c, so we use a refrigerant like tetrafluoroethane with a boiling point of -26c.

This gadget uses a similar concept. Instead of using pressure to tweak the boiling point of a refrigerant, it uses a solid that heats or cools in response to pressure. Then water carries the heat around.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Squeezing (pressurizing) certain gases are basically how air conditioners work. Under pressure, the gases can absorb more heat (think pressure cooker - those get hotter because they raise the boiling point of water with the higher pressure). Shuffle that pressurized gas somewhere else with lower pressure, and it can no longer hold all that heat and needs to release it. Tada: heat has been moved from one location to another.

[–] Cliff@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It kind of works exactly the other way around. The high pressure section is where the heat gets released and the low pressure section where it absorbs the heat (cools down the surroundings).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vapor-compression_refrigeration#Description

Similar to a Refrigerator:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator#Compressor_refrigerators

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Alec Watson (Technology Connections) would be disappointed in me

[–] Cliff@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't know him. But learning something is never a bad thing. I guess he also thinks that way.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

You're missing out! He basically picks out random technologies and stuff that interests him and explains how they work in an easy to digest way. Even if you're familiar with the subject he still manages to make it interesting. And he looooves heat pumps and anything remotely related to it.

https://youtu.be/7J52mDjZzto

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 5 points 4 days ago

Microplastics leak everywhere.

[–] QuadDamage@kbin.earth 2 points 4 days ago

Very interesting stuff.

[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Cools when squeezed? Yes, I do.

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

"Oh, a hug? ~~That's cool~~ That cools I guess...."

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Isn't this already a thing to some degree with sodium acetate pads?

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 3 points 4 days ago

That's a phase change triggered by a seed crystal (generated from a physical shock from the 'clicker') where the transition from liquid to solid phases returns the latent heat that was previously added to turn it from solid to liquid.

There is no phase change in this material, it remains a solid and changes temperature depending on how much pressure is applied to it.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Great more microplastics to add to the already fucking problem.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 45 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Plastic as in plastic deformation, not plastic as in milk jugs. The crystals have a weak molecular bond so can squash and deform.

[–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Even if they are literally plastics, probably way better* for the environment than the gasses used in refrigeration; and miles better than Freon.

*Assuming it works as efficiently

[–] stray@pawb.social 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Also some plastics are made renewably and/or are biodegradable. It's a broad range of materials.

[–] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

is this one?

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago
[–] hot_mocha_decaf@lemmy.cafe 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Except, what they're describing seems to be elastic, not plastic. Plastic deformation is permenant.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

I think that's sort of the trick. They do the plastic deformation "permanently" into one shape, then they "permanently" deform it back. I assume there's some crystal lattice stuff going on that makes one of the deformations require more/less energy than the other deformation, and thus the heat created doesn't quite balance, meaning you can now theoretically transfer heat energy with it.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I won't profess to be an expert but I think they're often compared to wax for how easy they can be to deform which falls more under plastic deformation.

[–] homes@piefed.world 4 points 4 days ago

Not until it’s a real thing that actually exists. As of now, it’s just some imaginary bullshit to get investors excited…