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[–] bluGill@fedia.io 1 points 4 minutes ago

Many of those forests need to burn regularly. Check with a qualified forester for your area but often the forest needs to burn so who cares.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 1 points 3 minutes ago

Many of those forests need to burn regularly. Check with a qualified forester for your area but often the forest needs to burn so who cares.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I’m not sure about that particular statistic (half of the total number of fires, regardless of size? Half of acres burned?), but utility lines definitely cause a lot of fires. This can be mitigated by burying lines, which IIRC is what San Diego does, but it’s expensive so companies don’t want to do it unless their arms are twisted.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

It's sad spending a few more dollars and not reporting billions in profits to save vast amounts of land and property is frowned upon.

[–] Patnou@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Yea I guess I should have tried to slip frequency in there somehow.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You read it somewhere, so clearly someone has reported it

The issues are how do you

  1. Get people to pay attention to those reports and care?
  2. Get those people to vote accordingly?
  3. Get those elected officials to hold the electric companies accountable?
  4. Hold those elected officials accountable when they don't?
  5. Keep those people engaged and doing points 1-4 consistently so that it doesn't happen again?
[–] DudeWhoYapsTooMuch@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

You show the effects of the consequences of how it was reported, blame them and when it's elected officials, you hold them accountable. The problem is that no one knows how to actually hold people accountable without getting nasty. We need to do what Zohran Mamdani did and put ourselves in the spotlight and do not shy away but keep it clean, and respectful.

[–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 8 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

The search term is PG&E hooks. For example, a breakdown on hackaday.

Why?

Evidence used to convict PG&E of the 2018 Camp Fire shows the company knew old parts needed replacing, but tried to show they could last longer.

Money, I guess. The people who originally installed these hooks are probably dead of natural causes by now (even if they were quite young) so I imagine they'd be well-past service life of the parts too.

EDIT: Age of one of the broken hooks seems to be 97 years, costed 56 cents (not in modern money), and also:

According to a February 1987 engineering evaluation, the company ordered the tests of two worn hooks that were found on a transmission line in Contra Costa county – hooks that look chillingly similar to ones taken from the nearly 100-year-old transmission line blamed for the fire that left 85 dead.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

This. It's the fundamental reason natural monopolies like utilities are problematic to privatize. Democratic governments have an incentive to prioritize residents and citizens interests. The only interests private companies incentivize are shareholders, who increasingly do not care if their profits result in destruction, death, and disaster because they don't know or care about the people being harmed. They don't live in the places that are burning, so why would they reduce their take just to ensure the safety of the communities the company serves. As long as the losses they take from lawsuits and the cost of paying governments to limit their liability, are less than the cost of maintaining the lines then 100 year old hardware seems "Good Enough" to them.

Can you regulate them to the moon and back to prevent that? Sure. By the time you've finished building that bureaucracy, it would have cost you a fraction of price just to have a government department do it.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 points 50 minutes ago (1 children)

Californians know that the electrical company transmission lines are neglected. It was reported heavily.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 1 points 23 minutes ago

But I'm told by some whiny ass crybabies after that Pratt prick lost that it's the dems fault for all the wildfires.