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[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Is it tho? Steam works just fine without it. I wound argue at this point even better, since I wound have a hard time still finding CDs etc. from 20 years ago with key, in working order AND have a drive to actually read it too.

What we need is an easy way to sell/buy used. Seems like the EU is the only driver of development in that regard.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You are not planting trees that you will never sit in the shade of.

There will ALWAYS be inherent risk with digital that they hold the keys to. Digital is a nice supplement, if a physical copy is owned. You give them an inch though and they'll grind your grandma up to make animal feed so they can get eggs from the chickens and collude to price fix you out of your omelette.

[–] scholar@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

GOG shows you can actually own your digital games with downloadable fully offline installers.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Across all products , including physical media but also any connected hardware devices, they need to be shipping and maintaining a minimum viable experience that can't be altered or disabled. That would require legislation or a standards org they have a need to comply with. No more remote bricks for HW and SW, full stop.

[–] BassetHound@lemmy.ca 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Steam works because Valve is a private corporation with a leadership who actually like video games.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world -1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Which is why they're a part of Video Games Europe the group against Stop Killing Games?

Or why Steam has been selling slop even before AI?

[–] BassetHound@lemmy.ca 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Not my point. They aren’t saints, but Steam is still a far better steward for a digital storefront than most.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

By doing the same as every other company?

[–] BassetHound@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Valve doesn’t try and lock in exclusives on their platform like the Epic Store or delete your account with games on it like Origin did. Steam provides plenty of notices about invasive DRM and anti-cheat that other stores don’t. Steam also has an easy refund process that doesn’t require you to call an agent. Valve does a lot to support gaming on Linux while all of the other platforms are almost exclusively Windows only.

[–] caesaravgvstvs@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But what if they remove a game you've purchased? You're in the same situation as with a PlayStation.

As long as you're not able do download DRM free install files, you don't own the software you purchased.

Steam has "promised" to make games available in case their service closes, but we're living on a prayer

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Steam has always had a backup option. GOG is well known and loved because of its backup option. Sony does not have any such backup option besides physical media. Same with Nintendo and Xbox.

And as Ubisoft showed with The Crew, even your physical media can be nuked remotely if it requires checking on a server to verify anything. It's no guarantee of anything.

[–] caesaravgvstvs@feddit.org 1 points 17 hours ago

But steam would require you to go online to install your backups. Unless you have DRM free install files, you're vulnerable. That includes physical media that has DRM

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What if they disable the CD key? Same story. This is how they banned cheaters since ages too, nothing new. At some point you have to trust them.

[–] MoogMuskie@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

What are you talking about? You can't ban a player from a downloaded copy of a DRM-Free game.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Only a tiny faction of all games are DRM free. And since you do not get a key for them, why did you assume I was talking about them?