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Foreign migrant living illegally in Canada eligible for Ontario welfare, tribunal rules (nationalpost.com)

submitted 16 hours ago by lautan@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

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[–] dudesss@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 hour ago

American news media creeping in again

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 20 points 14 hours ago

oh boy a whole $343 a month, whatever shall the rest of us do?

whoop de friggin do. a homeless guy can now get enough for a few days of food from the government. $343 isn't enough to buy shit.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 16 points 13 hours ago

Do people think the guy's putting his $343 in an offshore account? That money gets circulated into the local economy really quickly. Last I read in the US, every $1 spent on SNAP generated something around $7 in economic impact.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 19 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Public opinion has tracked rising concern over immigration levels in Canada — to 30-year highs — driven largely by pressure on housing, health care and social supports, according to federal government data.

LOL. If only those services weren't chronically underfunded by neo-liberals and co~~nservative~~rporate puppets, then there wouldn't be any need to blame immigrants for the governments failure to be a fucking government.

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 9 points 12 hours ago

No you don't understand we must funnel money into the private sector and hire armies of middlemen and consultants! We can't have nice things because that would be communism or something

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 22 points 15 hours ago

The Nazionalist post should not be read or shared.

[+] lautan@lemmy.ca -37 points 16 hours ago (6 children)

This sends a message (add it to the giant pile of them) to the world that Canada is easily exploitable. Come here illegally, stay long enough and we’ll give you a free ride.

[–] blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 11 hours ago

The only people sending this message are morons who think the NP is a reputable source of news and not conservative agiprop.

[–] No_Maines_Land@lemmy.ca 45 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

came to Canada in 1997 on a temporary work permit. Although his permit expired after four years, he never left.

He was able to support himself by working cash jobs until 2023

[applied] last fall

I'd say 26 years working and trying to find work for 2+ more years is long enough for EI benifits. MPs get a pensions after only 6 years.

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I assume he wasn’t paying taxes into the system by working cash jobs.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

You can read the article, it says so two paragraphs in.

What about these employers that are avoiding paying into EI and the other programs?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 13 hours ago

Jail time for fraud.

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 4 points 14 hours ago

Those employers are bad. Ask the real question you want to ask.

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 17 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

easily exploitable? do you even KNOW how much a person on Ontario Works can get? ESPECIALLY SINCE HE'S HOMELESS?

HEY EVERYONE IN THE WORLD, COME GET YOUR FREE $343 A MONTH FOR 6 MONTHS!!!!

fucking idiot.THAT is how much a homeless person in Ontario gets a month from Ontario Works. $343. that's it. a month.

that's enough for MAYBE a few days worth of food for a homeless person. How do I know? I lived it.

[–] Cerothen@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 minutes ago

I'm not weighing in here for our against the posted issue however EI payments are weekly not monthly. When I was on paternity leave the high end of those payments was ~560 per week and paternity leave payments are equal to other forms of unemployment.

Again, I'm not bothering to read the article, or do the digging if this person is eligible. I'm just advising that I think you might be off on the total value that could be received.

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

How dare someone use the services they've been paying into.

[+] BloodMuffin@lemmy.ca -9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

22 years of cash jobs is not paying into the system

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Oh so Canada only has employment taxes and nothing else.

[+] BloodMuffin@lemmy.ca -9 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

they are the majority

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 6 points 12 hours ago

Depends on how much you're making. This guy has probably been below the poverty line the whole time he's been in this country. If he's been making less than the Basic Personal Amount income tax credit that anyone can claim, he wouldn't be paying any tax even if he'd been doing everything by the book and above-board. If he wasn't very far above it, he'd have been paying a pittance—probably less than he was paying out in sales taxes for everything he bought over the course of twenty-odd years.

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I think you'll survive giving him $350 a month for 6 months.

[–] BloodMuffin@lemmy.ca -3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I'll survive many, many things. that doesn't mean anything. The point is he paid nowhere near his fair share of taxes.

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I disagree and so does this court.

[–] BloodMuffin@lemmy.ca -5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

actually the court said nothing about him paying taxes. they gave him benefits based on "the sheer length of time and the roots the appellant had established while in Canada"

basically says if you come here and hide out illegally for long enough, we'll give you welfare. terrible precedent to set

[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

they gave him benefits based on "the sheer length of time and the roots the appellant had established while in Canada"

Yes, because

Brown said those definitions show the applicant reasonably fell outside the meaning of both tourist and visitor, “given the sheer length of time and the roots the appellant had established while in Canada.”

No evidence was presented at the tribunal that he had been ordered out of Canada by federal immigration authorities.

Therefore, he did not fit into the three categories that are excluded from eligibility with respect to immigration status and he was eligible.

I remember when Harris brought in this legislation. What an incredible self own lol.

[–] BloodMuffin@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

you know what, y'all are right

pay the man

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 13 hours ago

Lobster bucket mentality strikes again.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Judging by your incredibly racist comment, you currently lack the mental capacity to read more than a sentence.

...he had come to Canada in 1997 on a temporary work permit. Although his permit expired after four years, he never left.

He was able to support himself by working cash jobs until 2023 when he entered the homeless shelter system, he told the tribunal.

2026-1997 = 29

Twenty-nine years of work. That is not a free ride dumbass. Actually read the article before you share your racist viewpoints, and then please do share them so we can clown on you.

Even if they weren't working, one would have to ask, why not? Is it actually malicious, or something else? All in all, how can we help them become someone who can sustain the capacity to help others?

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

He's worked more than any CEO

[–] Templa@beehaw.org 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Do you think the only taxes you pay are income taxes?

[–] BloodMuffin@lemmy.ca -1 points 13 hours ago

the majority definitely are