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‘Smoking gun proof’: fossil fuel industry knew of climate danger as early as 1954, documents show
(www.theguardian.com)
And nothing will happen to any of them
this post was submitted on 30 Jan 2024
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That's not true. We continue to bend the rules further and further for them all the time. ':-(
Not if we continue to play by the rules they've all set for society..
Society exists because of social contracts.
Social contracts require everyone to play by the accepted rules.
They broke that contract long ago.
They keep changing the rules because they have enough power/money to do so
That was 70 years ago, anyone who was old enough to have had any power is almost certainly deceased.
there has never been any doubt about climate science, and anyone who suggested there was is a lying sack of shit
There was a period where we weren't sure if it was a natural change or man made. It's wasn't a long period, but there was definitely initial doubt.
When it was in the public debate, we knew it was man made. The fossil fuel industry did a lot of PR/propaganda to shift public opinion and push false narratives like we didn't know. Despite these same companies being the first to collect data and models on the very thing they were denying.
And yet, some still choose not to understand, today.
They know about climate change now, they still perpetrating it
So it's time for them to voluntarily cough up to fix the problem by coming to an industry agreement with national governments on what portion of assets of all companies involved must be contributed to efforts to fix the problem.
Or else it's time without them for governments to seize assets To be used to fix the problem through direct capture and mitigation effort And by funding jobs and industries that are Furthering green renewable safe energy and infrastructure.
I'm not sure about the rest of the world, But America has an upward mobility crisis right now. I don't care how many people who are Disgustingly rich become just a little bit rich in the process. Lifting up millions of americans and fixing our self-destructive infrastructure Is an obvious solution.
You say all that as if the governments aren't owned by and run for the disgustingly rich, which is why reform isn't a solution (there is no legislating climate change away) but rather the whole system needs abolishing.
And one country can't solve the issue. We all need to work together...which will never happen
Not with that attitude
I don’t think you’re gonna hurt anything by acting on climate change without a global consensus. I do think the effect COVID had on warming showed pretty clearly how much is possible when even a few countries just take indirect action.
In Go Nagai's Devilman, climate change is an important plot point. That story was written in 1972. We've known.
Did not expect a direct Devilman reference on Lemmy. Our population may be small but damn do our niches run deep.
I gotta get it in where i can :)
I'm still sad that plot point got dropped from Crybaby.
True, Crybaby was a more experimental art piece than a faithful adaptation of the story.
I still like it though, but for very different reasons than why I like the 90s OVA...and the weird live action...
Let's get the names of the c level execs for these companies from 1950-1990 and reference the 23&me biomap.
What we do with the names and addresses of their offspring is not for me to decide, but if their lies led their offspring to wealth it would be quite fair to remove it before SHTF.
Yay, Capitalism
Lol ... Smoking gun
It's like having someone shoot a comically oversized cannon with mostly coal and gasoline that would produce a big giant black cloud to shoot a tiny metal ball .... and then everyone standing around asking where the shot was fired from.
Also it seems a bit of a stretch to call it a "smoking" gun 70 years later.
