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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)

"Money doesn't buy happiness". Absolutely true. Look at all the miserable wealthy billionaires and trillionaires.

Money, however, does ENABLE happiness by warding off fear, despair, hopelessness and all other crap.

[–] Napster153@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I think what we're looking here is for breathing room. The cost of living must return to sustainability for people to expand and regain lost stability in all expects of their lives.

Of course, certain people will try to gaslight into saying that being a serf for Neo-Feudalism is the best thing ever, and that an organisation or state that doesn't serve your wellbeing or interest is the best thing ever

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Money doesn't buy happiness but financial instability eradicates it.

[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I heard someone say "money isn't everything, but not having it is."

[–] phx@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

My take is that money doesn't bring happiness, but poverty definitely can strip it away

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Money may not buy happiness, but it can but a jet ski, and I've never seen anyone on a jet ski that wasn't smiling!" - some comedian

[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

There was a commercial for a cruise line where the daughter stopped smiling as soon as she saw mom was filming, does that count?

[–] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 68 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In our current system and how late stage capitalism is decimating most of us, money literally solves everything

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (9 children)

Therapy, is like cars, a sign of a failed society. I don't mean that the failure is that we don't pay for therapy, the failure is that socially we have no way to deal with suffering other than to pay a separately trained and certified and regulated professional to deal with it, one-on-one.

We have forgotten how to support ourselves, we have forgotten how to support each other. The systems that used to support us--family, church, bowling leagues, clubs, work--have collapsed around us, leaving us all alone, and isolated, and depressed.

The idea that this societal collapse should be dealt with one-person-at-a-time at $100+/hr is in itself more mad than anyone you will find on a couch.

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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Therapy is fantastic, but any therapist will tell you that for it to have lasting effects, you need at least 12 months of continual attendance.

Now ask yourself how many people can afford weekly therapy sessions for a year. Where I live the cost would be about 3.5 median paychecks.

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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 43 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Alternate plan: do away with people's need to have money to live by dealing with the broken system that puts them in that position.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 28 points 4 days ago

With money, I could even get therapy!

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

I just got a full time job and health insurance, after being without for a while.

My mental health is spectacular now. From the day I got my offer, I’ve felt cool as a cucumber. My dumbass ex also accidentally transferred me several thousand dollars, so just the feeling of having a nest egg and safety is like the world being lifted off my shoulders. Therapy never did anything even close.

[–] FavouriteShapes@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Or just, wealth/stability. So many people would give away money to have their own vegetable garden attached to a multi-generational home - they can then figure the rest out from there.

Humans are different and have different interests but one thing common to all of us is that we enjoy:

  • being outdoors
  • exercising
  • having community
  • learning skills and creating things

There are actually some people who successfully self therapise. This is hard to do, so it's actually a testament to just how many people out there need therapy, which reflects how unhealthy modern life is for humans.

The core idea of the tweet is correct - people can heal mental health sounds when given the right environment to. We live in a time where almost nobody is in the right environment for this, which requires what I listed before (healthy community, access to green space, purpose and recreation). This is basic stuff, I think it's covered by Maslow's hierarchy of needs - which, ironically, is often shown to business students in universities, but then disregarded by the capitalists who rule this world.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

So many people would give away money to have their own vegetable garden

I guess I'm in the minority. I'm perfectly happy living in a townhome with a postage stamp backyard if it puts me walking distance from a fully stocked grocery store stuffed with fresh food harvested out in the country.

Humans are different and have different interests but one thing common to all of us is that we enjoy

I mean, I'll spot you fresh air and friendly neighbors, relatively speaking. But being outdoors when it's muggy or freezing or ozone-y is highly overrated. Exercise isn't something I need (or prefer) to do in my home when a park or gym is nearby. And hobbies are, similarly, nice to do in a communal space where all the tools I need are at hand.

So I might spot you "quality public amenities" in lieu of "disposable income/savings". But I think your mileage is really going to vary by climate and weather conditions when it comes to just telling people to touch grass.

This is basic stuff, I think it’s covered by Maslow’s hierarchy of needs - which, ironically, is often shown to business students in universities, but then disregarded by the capitalists who rule this world.

Maslow's a great "Intro To" for sociology, but it does run into a lot of caveats and limits. People will periodically risk or outright sacrifice lower "basic" needs in pursuit of higher goals. And influencing that behavior is exactly what business-and-marketing seeks to achieve. Capitalists don't neglect Maslow, they aspire towards exploiting and subverting it. The ideal commoditized bit of human capital is going to live in the pod and eat the bugs and own nothing and still be happy.

Maslow is for the real people, not the NPCs.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Maybe by extension it's time.

Having had kids I've really learned that I need time to just fritter away. Down time. Not for chores or for date night or for my hobbies or for tv.

Just time to do nohing important and watch the day while away.

Sadly I need a lot of this time. Or maybe I'm just running a huge deficit so it seems like I need a lot.

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Reminds me of https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/02/12/money-money-everywhere-but-not-a-cent-to-spend

Specifically:

In this case, it was that – well, the guy is a minimum wage worker from inner city Detroit. He didn’t tell me exactly how much money this debt was, but from a couple of numbers he mentioned I got the impression it was in the ballpark of $5000. That might not seem like an attempt-suicide level of money to some people, but to this guy with his job the chance of ever paying it off seemed low enough that it wasn’t worth waiting and seeing.

So what bothered me is that psychiatric hospitalization costs about $1,000 a day. Average length of stay for a guy like him might be three to five days. So we were spending $5,000 on his psychiatric hospitalization, which was USELESS, so that we could send him out and he could attempt suicide again because of his $5,000 debt which he has no way of paying off. And probably end up in the hospital a second time, for that matter.

[–] lookitsjustin@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 days ago (23 children)

Therapy would be great... if I had money.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Check your local social services department, you might have a mental health provider in your area that's government funded. You likely won't see a therapist right away – or often – when you begin the process, but it's better than nothing at all.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 17 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I think money would solve about 90% of my problems, which would likely do wonders for my mental health.

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[–] interesting@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Money gives you the freedom to choose your job. If you have enough backup money, you will basically not let your employer bully/mobbing you, because you can resign. When we normal people talk about money, we don't mean billions; we need money that basically gives us freedom of choice for basic needs and helps us survive on bad days(2-3 years of unemployment)

[–] SuperApples@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can confirm. Once I became wealthy enough to quit my job I liked it a lot more, because I could speak my mind without fear. The last 6 months I worked was the easiest 6 months.

[–] interesting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

100% agree. Now, I can't speak freely because I fear losing my job.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Seriously. I'm someone that's had a background in engineering but has really struggled in office jobs due to what I now know to be AuDHD related. I'm currently exploring a mid career transition to K12 teaching. I've had prior experience in education, just not K12 classroom teaching. But I have real reason to believe this would work a lot better with my neurology.

But frankly, the only reason I'm able to explore this is because I have a partner, and we're fortunate enough to be able to get by on their income alone. We both need to be working for us to really make progress on our savings and retirement goals, and I owe it to them to do all I can to pull my own weight. So I can't just not work. But I have the luxury of being able to try to find work that works for me.

With as rocky as a career history as I have had? If I hadn't been with my partner, I would have probably had to make a living on my back or end up living on the street. I certainly never would have had the luxury of being able to take the time to explore alternate career paths. It's that bad.

I have struggled with very real career impediments from this. And having a bit of money has made all the difference. We're not rich. But just having enough to have a stable home situation and the ability to afford treatment is life changing.

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[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Also the Therapist: So anyways I started billin $300/h

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

Hey she's most people too

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Fiat currency and power. Two concepts that exists entirely in our minds. Two concepts that ruin the species. Maybe we arent intelligent afterall...

[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

People don't realize this but USD(money) is how we Access world wide economy ( and each other), so depriving someone of money is basically cutting them off from society.

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[–] vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 days ago

"money can't buy happiness but it sure can pay the rent"

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'd correct that to:

Money helps up to a point, and everything going beyond that needs therapy.

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[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’d suggest one better: stop gating the provision of subsistence behind financial transactions.

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[–] raze2012@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Pretty much what I try to tell my parents. I don't need therapy. I know exactly what stresses me out and it's this extended fall from grace from saving up for my own house to taking up any gig in my ability to keep the lights on in the span of 3 years. The ladder was pulled up and they actively pushed me out of the floor.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even just $1000 would be extremely helpful to most Americans, but $10,000 would be transformative for MANY people.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

7.62x39 is about 42 cents a round on ammo seek. $1000 would be about 420 rounds not counting shipping.

[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Limit the amount of assets everyone can have to 1M-10M and tax inheritance, so peoples start position is drawn more equally. So the money will end up by people who start with none thru the government thru taxes. Solved next

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