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Various Steam and Linux gaming software were only officially running on AMD.
I know ChimeraOS, bazzite HTPC and SteamOS/HoloISO were not well supported or not supported at all on any other GPU a year ago.
So? Valve didn't remove Mesa drivers from SteamOS. Intel is supported by Mesa.
That's pretty neat. Might be a good time to pick one up before the world figures out it's working as well as it is.
I am out of the loop. Why should I consider an Intel Arc over Nvidia or AMD? Is it just a price thing?
It's neat to have more than one option. With Nvidia of course not being one.
Nvidia may catch up one day but I dont think it will be until NVK gets good
Nvidia GPUs will never fully catch up until Nvidia themselves switch their entire driver model to be open source and upstream developed within Mesa.
Watching that video I can see the card being very useful once the Linux drivers can fully exploit the hardware.
Why wouldn't Nvidia be one? Other Linux users keep saying it's no good but they work perfectly fine for me.
Nvidia might not exist in a couple years, because of that financial collapse they're about to cause
And ruining the cost of everything including ram, putting small hardware producers of everything from computer cases to their own cards out of business, etc. Nobody with a brain would deal with those fucking losers now, and nobody with a heart would tolerate them in a build.
If you think Nvidia will stop existing but AMD or Intel of all companies survive you live under a rock on the dark side of the moon. Same goes for rising costs of everything because of AI. Nvidia, AMD and Intel are all the same here. It makes no sense so many people differentiate here. Like, do you guys not pay any attention at all? If anything Intel is much worse than the other two because it directly answers to the orange's fascist regime. They're the last company I will trust my money with.
Yeah. I think Nvidia will be fine. The way I see it, AI either keeps scaling, and Nvidia makes money, or AI collapses, and Nvidia gets to sell a buttload of GPUs to a market segment that has been priced out of upgrading their hardware for the past few years and are desperate for affordable upgrades, and on top of that Nvidia I'm sure has negotiated some kind of payout if their AI customers don't take delivery of the hardware they are contracted for, so Nvidia gets to double-dip on the equipment they've produced. Kind of a win-win for them.
They might survive. I don't think they'll be fine in any situation where they're forced to return to the consumer market.
There's a lot of ridiculously circular financing* here, and if there's any insistence that money isn't just completely nonsense bullshit here, some heads are gonna need to roll.
*okay so Alice takes out a hundred dollar lease from Bob. Bob goes to a bank and uses that as collateral to get a two hundred dollar lease from Carol. Carol takes that to the bank and uses it as collateral to get a loan for a thousand dollar lease from Alice who uses that as collateral to get a 5000 dollar loan from Bob, who.... Tl:;Dr: nvidia's standing on a financial house of cards and betting on a bailout that makes the whole of 08 look like nothing.
Nvidia fans kept insisting that "Nvidia works perfectly for me" even when Wayland was entirely unsupported and using highly insecure X11 was really not a bad thing at all.
More recently game mode didn't work on Nvidia because their drivers again lacked features.
Just because you don't use a feature not supported by your drivers, doesn't mean that it's not true. By the very nature how Nvidia develop their drivers, they will lag behind Mesa "standards".
There's a reason you are talking in past tense. It works with new games and Wayland nowadays. Unless the game is inherently broken on windows and AMD cards too (hey, MHWilds, fuck you). In any case I wouldn't buy a new NVIDIA card, but gatekeeping and fear mongering windows users with NVIDIA cards isn't the play either. It works fine, not the best, but fine.
For a long time, Intel was the only GPU manufacturer that worked just as well on Linux as it did on Windows. The problem was that they only made integrated graphics, so it was useless for gaming.
Arc was their first attempt at a discrete PCIe GPU. The Linux community had the expectation that Linux would be a first-class citizen. IIRC it missed the bar, but it wasn't horrible.
By the time this all happened, AMD was hitting performance parity between Windows and Linux. You'll notice in the steam hardware survey that AMD is the undisputable king of Linux.
If Arc is now working well on SteamOS, it's probably worth re-evaluating.
Intel also has way better hardware support than AMD, for some reason.
For a long time, easily a decade now, Radeon drivers work better under Linux than Windows: https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/2013/09/26/dolphin-emulator-and-opengl-drivers-hall-fameshame/
Well, yes.
If you can get an Arc GPU at a better price than the equivalent AMD, that's a huge deal.
On Linux, over amd there isn't as much of a direct reason unless you're also gaming off an arc based igpu media server. Over Nvidia, it's b cause nvidias Linux experience is more compromised than Intel/amd (it's not 0 but you make more concessions on top of the ones that inherently come with Linux)
Cool, great. ...but why use ai to create the thumbnail? ;-;
Looks more like a classic thumbnail template with a background, titles and some GPU pngs. Only the left GPU looks AI-ish to me and it might just be 3D render.
Ah yes, I see that now that I'm not peering at it through my phone.
I had that thought as well. We're about to be in the period of doing absolutely random and sometimes worse thumbnails/promotional art just to show it is human generated.
Not a value judgment, just an observation
Yeah ;-;
No accelerated XeSS upscaling yet.
This is perfect time for those that want (and have the money) to build a small compact steam machine. Intel has a low profile 16 GB card.
I'm debating one for my Minisforum MS-01 desktop. I currently have an eGPU with a used AMD 6700 XT (I think) that I got from a coworker a while ago. Mainly because eGPU over USB4 is weird (eGPU is weird in general on Linux).
So I actually ordered a MS-02 desktop bare bones I'm slotting in with a 4060 LP I have laying around. You're right, eGPU is weird on Linux all over. It works, just always an odd quirk with it.
Yeah, I've been doing eGPU for probably 5 years in one form or another. It works, they're just quirky. Mostly around hot plug/unplug. I learned this time using it with USB4 that the UEFI and my LUKS prompt don't show up.
Interesting? Why do you think that is?
By the research I did, the UMFI doesn't load the driver stack to output the picture there. And I didn't see any UEFI settings for it.
Intel Arc has got lost of improvements but I'm not giving a click to ETA Prime
Tell me why? Any drama I haven't heard?
Exactly. Tell us fuckin why. I'm so sick of people making comments like this and just leaving people hanging because they expect everyone to know every thing they do.
Vague posting intensifies
I don't have time to watch this video right now, but as someone who's uses an Intel Arc A770 for two years, there are certain aspects which are no end of trouble.
Namely anything that has to do with raytracing, and especially Unreal Engine 5 for some reason.
Raytracing has never been worth the performance penalty imo.
It creates beautiful videos in satisfactory and other slow games. If AI never happened i bet cards would have been cheap enough for most games to afford ray tracing by default but alas
Regardless of cost, not even the mightiest gpu can play a 1440p game with path tracing for example at high refresh rates, without dlss. So no, the cost isn't the only issue.
This is a minor cosmetic feature used to entice fools to depart with their money.
Damn, so near perfection! I bet in less than one year it's ready for prime time.