This is perfect time for those that want (and have the money) to build a small compact steam machine. Intel has a low profile 16 GB card.
this post was submitted on 18 Aug 2026
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No accelerated XeSS upscaling yet.
That's pretty neat. Might be a good time to pick one up before the world figures out it's working as well as it is.
Finally? I installed SteamOS on my Arc PC when Steam Machine launched and it was fine.
Various Steam and Linux gaming software were only officially running on AMD.
I know ChimeraOS, bazzite HTPC and SteamOS/HoloISO were not well supported or not supported at all on any other GPU a year ago.
So? Valve didn't remove Mesa drivers from SteamOS. Intel is supported by Mesa.
Cool, great. ...but why use ai to create the thumbnail? ;-;
I had that thought as well. We're about to be in the period of doing absolutely random and sometimes worse thumbnails/promotional art just to show it is human generated.
Not a value judgment, just an observation
Yeah ;-;
Looks more like a classic thumbnail template with a background, titles and some GPU pngs. Only the left GPU looks AI-ish to me and it might just be 3D render.
Ah yes, I see that now that I'm not peering at it through my phone.
Damn, so near perfection! I bet in less than one year it's ready for prime time.
I am out of the loop. Why should I consider an Intel Arc over Nvidia or AMD? Is it just a price thing?
It's neat to have more than one option. With Nvidia of course not being one.
Nvidia may catch up one day but I dont think it will be until NVK gets good
Nvidia GPUs will never fully catch up until Nvidia themselves switch their entire driver model to be open source and upstream developed within Mesa.
Watching that video I can see the card being very useful once the Linux drivers can fully exploit the hardware.
Why wouldn't Nvidia be one? Other Linux users keep saying it's no good but they work perfectly fine for me.
Nvidia fans kept insisting that "Nvidia works perfectly for me" even when Wayland was entirely unsupported and using highly insecure X11 was really not a bad thing at all.
More recently game mode didn't work on Nvidia because their drivers again lacked features.
Just because you don't use a feature not supported by your drivers, doesn't mean that it's not true. By the very nature how Nvidia develop their drivers, they will lag behind Mesa "standards".
Ah so it's just irrational past grudges. Glad we could clear that up.
There's a reason you are talking in past tense. It works with new games and Wayland nowadays. Unless the game is inherently broken on windows and AMD cards too (hey, MHWilds, fuck you). In any case I wouldn't buy a new NVIDIA card, but gatekeeping and fear mongering windows users with NVIDIA cards isn't the play either. It works fine, not the best, but fine.
There’s a reason you are talking in past tense.
Yes, the reason being that I no longer use Nvidia hardware under Linux myself, so I'm not actively looking for the very latest news. Nvidia and SteamOS game mode is a very recent development, literally within the last two weeks.
It is not gatekeeping or fear mongering if we are giving real expectation. I saw countless people going back to Windows because they tried running Linux and either faced challenges or worse performance. I prefer to alert them instead of sugar coat.
Talking present tense, "it works fine", still off:
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"It works with new games" sure but if you are playing DX12 titles prepare to experience a 15% to 30% performance tax compared to play on Windows or even compared to Amd
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If you plan to use secure boot, it is not all distro that will give you an easy path. Be prepared for rough edges. This is primarily caused because their stack isn't in the upstream kernel.
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If you are security conscious, and harden your system, be aware that if you are using AppArmor or SELinux to lock down your system, you almost always have to carve out manual exceptions specifically to get Nvidia drivers to play nice.
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The 'Goldilocks' Setup: You are constantly forced to chase the perfect environment, the right distro, the bleeding-edge updates, the exact driver version, just to get basic desktop features like Wayland running without artifacting or flickering
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Auditing not only for fixing and improving things but for the peace of mind as well, right now we have to trust on Nvidia closed source code. We are to a certain degree privacy exposed.
Having said all of the things above, there are real reasons yet to pick Nvidia over other GPUs, even on Linux. If we are not talking about gaming, CUDA and AI are still considerably better on Nvidia.
Nevertheless, currently, Nvidia on Linux generally feels like you have to maintain a second, highly temperamental operating system along side your installation.
Nvidia might not exist in a couple years, because of that financial collapse they're about to cause
And ruining the cost of everything including ram, putting small hardware producers of everything from computer cases to their own cards out of business, etc. Nobody with a brain would deal with those fucking losers now, and nobody with a heart would tolerate them in a build.
If you think Nvidia will stop existing but AMD or Intel of all companies survive you live under a rock on the dark side of the moon. Same goes for rising costs of everything because of AI. Nvidia, AMD and Intel are all the same here. It makes no sense so many people differentiate here. Like, do you guys not pay any attention at all? If anything Intel is much worse than the other two because it directly answers to the orange's fascist regime. They're the last company I will trust my money with.
Yeah. I think Nvidia will be fine. The way I see it, AI either keeps scaling, and Nvidia makes money, or AI collapses, and Nvidia gets to sell a buttload of GPUs to a market segment that has been priced out of upgrading their hardware for the past few years and are desperate for affordable upgrades, and on top of that Nvidia I'm sure has negotiated some kind of payout if their AI customers don't take delivery of the hardware they are contracted for, so Nvidia gets to double-dip on the equipment they've produced. Kind of a win-win for them.
For a long time, Intel was the only GPU manufacturer that worked just as well on Linux as it did on Windows. The problem was that they only made integrated graphics, so it was useless for gaming.
Arc was their first attempt at a discrete PCIe GPU. The Linux community had the expectation that Linux would be a first-class citizen. IIRC it missed the bar, but it wasn't horrible.
By the time this all happened, AMD was hitting performance parity between Windows and Linux. You'll notice in the steam hardware survey that AMD is the undisputable king of Linux.
If Arc is now working well on SteamOS, it's probably worth re-evaluating.
For a long time, easily a decade now, Radeon drivers work better under Linux than Windows: https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/2013/09/26/dolphin-emulator-and-opengl-drivers-hall-fameshame/
Intel also has way better hardware support than AMD, for some reason.
On Linux, over amd there isn't as much of a direct reason unless you're also gaming off an arc based igpu media server. Over Nvidia, it's b cause nvidias Linux experience is more compromised than Intel/amd (it's not 0 but you make more concessions on top of the ones that inherently come with Linux)
@DosDude@retrolemmy.com E.g.
Because Sonalder’s account is on lemmy.ml This post doesn’t show up on our 🛜
This is the exact Bias in code I was talking about.
I don’t have to like campists in order to interact with things we do intersect with.
…Eh, as a stranger from another instance, I respectfully disagree.
I too came to Lemmy with the mindset of “don’t block anyone,” but honestly, lemmy.ml can be a lot. It derails normal threads, sometimes. If yall are going for a retro-games focused instance, it’s a reasonable thing to filter.
I like interacting with many of .ml's communities too, but I also understand an attempt at instance curation.
Because lemmy.ml can be bit much for most people, I put lemmy.ml on the default block list. You can unblock them through your user settings. As stated by the welcome message by retrobot
OIC, removed it.🙇♀️
cc @Die4Ever@retrofed.com
I'm on RetroFed right now and this post showed up for me
Do you have more details? Can you reproduce the issue? What app/frontend are you using?
I am using the piefed FE.
It's strangely showing up now that you replied to me.
Yeah, actually, I'm seeing lemmy.ml in the link OP posted too.
Maybe they're running a piefed app or something? I dunno, Im just spitballing.