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[–] quaternaut@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Seems interesting. Wonder whether this is going to further spark Rust adoption in the enterprise.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's more likely that they see rust as a good successor to their legacy c++ code. Microsoft has always been heavily invested in C++ after all.

They don't want to sell rust. It's not a money maker for them.

[–] bluGill@kbin.social 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The article is clear that this is about C# not C++. Is the romance for managed languages wearing off - I wonder what issues they are seeing.

Microsoft is big in C++, but they are also pushing C++ to be a lot safer. Modern C++ isn't as safe as rust, but it is still much safer than C or C++98.

[–] notriddle@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago

Tail latency and memory usage?

It's hard for me to come up with any other big advantages that Rust has and C# couldn't easily lift.

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

Hopefully they won’t come up with some kind of a Rust/CLI, a version of Rust with GC support.

[–] technom@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think enterprises are the early adopters and proponents of Rust. They seem so stoked about the memory safety aspect.

[–] bluGill@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

As a C++ developer memory safety catches my attention. I keep rejecting code reviews - in 2024! - because of naked new. Since experience proves I can't get people to use the memory safety modern C++ offers I need to force the issue.

unfortunaty rust has other choices that don't play well with our existing C++ so it will be a long road.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Although headcount at Microsoft might currently be down – by two percent compared to the previous year – recruitment persists at the Windows giant.

The Substrate does the heavy lifting behind the scenes for Microsoft's cloud services, making a rewrite into Rust quite a statement of intent.

Microsoft said: "We are forming a new team focused on enabling the adoption of the Rust programming language as the foundation to modernizing global scale platform services, and beyond."

Considering the growing enthusiasm for memory-safe programming, something Rust delivers with far less effort than the likes of C++, Microsoft's move is unsurprising.

Memorably, a Microsoft engineer had to rapidly backpedal issue a clarification after proudly proclaiming that Office 365 was being ported to JavaScript.

In this instance, while Microsoft remains committed to C#, at least in public, its actions over the last few years and the job posting are indications that the company is keeping its options open.


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[–] autokludge@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

re-implementation of existing global scale C# based services to Rust.

Rusty azure serverless functions?

[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago

Support for Rust on Azure Functions would be awesome. Custom handlers have a lot of limitations, are poorly documented, and are difficult to use. Having Rust be treated a first-class language would make it so much easier to write performant Function Apps in a language that isn't C#.