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My how fast the AI tech bros move to protect corporations but don't move to protect the average coder, artists, writers.

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[–] mousefad@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 minutes ago

"It's so powerful! You're only allowed to use it how we want you to".

Allowed eh? How about go fuck yourself?

[–] RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world 3 points 41 minutes ago

Misanthropic: Characterized by a hatred or mistrustful scorn for humankind.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Hot take:

This is a good thing.

Claude Code is the "lowest common denominator." It's the default, zero research option. Its where you go if you follow popular trends.

If you actually want to reverse engineer, help code a game or something, there are hundreds of capable, uncensored LLM APIs to do that. Hacker communities will eventually figure that out, and finally realize Claude isn't unique, and that Anthropic is toxic.

But for lazy spammers who don't know that and aren't motivated to seek stuff out... well, if this makes their life more difficult, good. If this sabotages Anthropic, that's good too.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

To those who say "but what about game preservation?":

GenAI slop ruined communities around game preservation. And for every time a AAA dev getting this treatment, there's at least 3 indies getting it worse.

[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yep a lot of decomps just get a slop coded version and people stop caring about it because the slop version is "good enough." Most people doing the decomps it's also a hobby project that they're doing for fun as well, the end goal is just a bonus.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

There's already a meme that a lot of those decomps are just emulators + ROMs in a single repository.

[–] chleb@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago

Another reason not to use a closed models

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Is this in response to that new "reverse engineer anything" tool from the people that reverse engineered the Adobe suite?

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

The adobe suite was not reverse engineered, in the sense in which the term is applied to binary, closed-source softeware. Rather, it was cloned.

This is technically and often also legally very different. Cloning is a new implementation of a system which reproduces the abstract API of an existing System. Since APIs are not subject to copyright law, this is legally unproblemaric. It is also a creative process (so far). For exsmple, Linux is a clone of AT & T Unix.

Reverse engineering uses techniques like analysing the internal behaviour and decompiling the binary code of an existing product. It is im general not illegal, but it can violate license agreements and is more in a grey area. Laws like the DMCA might also apply if some kind of copy protection is used.

BTW, many Linux drivers are reverse enginnered to some degree.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 1 points 17 minutes ago

For exsmple, Linux is a clone of AT & T Unix.

Unless your definition of "clone" is very different from the mainstream one, you're talking out of your ass here. Linux was written from scratch. The only thing they've got in common is being POSIX-compliant.

[–] sanzky@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

of course. anyone who thinks AI can be used as a tool for independence is deluding themselves

[–] anewfox@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 hours ago

anyone who thinks AI can be used by us commoners for much longer is deluding themselves. it is so obvious that these big LLM companies want to capture the market by making everyone dependent and then crank prices way up.

[–] Fierro@piefed.social 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm hopeful this is positive, they'll start loosing a lot more to Chinese models and I can assure you local models will blow up too.

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I can assure you local models will blow up too.

Why?

[–] MalMen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 minutes ago

They are really good already, even if they have some kind of censored limitation, once you jailbreak it js jailed break for ever The only limitation right now is the poribitive gpu prices

[–] tgcoldrockn@lemmy.world 53 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Don't worry! Its STILL okay to reverse engineer the work of photographers artists writers actors voice over musicians modelers animators academics etc etc (feel free to add. the exploitation is literally everywhere!)

[–] solarspark@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

Jokes on them when they face the consequences of usurping the jobs of all these professions, causing mass exit, and replacing with their error prone output of their slop and unoriginal thinking/artistry. I'm excited to see this outcome, not going to lie.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 3 points 3 hours ago

Only if you're a corporation! If you're a filthy worker then you have no rights.

[–] kippininreal@lemmy.zip 12 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

So this is how these companies are going to safeguard against IP theft lawsuits! Leave our theft be, or we'll tell everyone how to get in.

Also it's incredibly telling how Anthropic doesn't add code to stop suicide ideation in teens (what they are their ilk are being sued for) but can somehow very quickly stop reverse engineering. A tool that values the captial holders through & through. Their "democratization of intelligence" schtick is obvious now.

OpenSource frontier models ASAP! Obviously never gonna happen, but a fool can dream atleast.

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 0 points 1 hour ago

Also it’s incredibly telling how Anthropic doesn’t add code to stop suicide ideation in teens (what they are their ilk are being sued for) but can somehow very quickly stop reverse engineering.

This.

[–] arararagi@ani.social 16 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

It's not ok when the commoners get some power back huh. What a shame, I've been loving playing my favorite console fps games as a kid, now with keyboard and mouse support.

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 5 points 7 hours ago

More power and value to the open weight models, cool

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 15 points 10 hours ago

The task Large Language Models are best at is pattern correlation. Out of all the possible applications, reverse-engineering seems the most reasonable use case to me.

But figuring out how stuff works is the exact opposite of what they want vibe coders to do: Don't think, don't train your own skills, just trust the machine. And if it doesn't work, just prompt again and keep wasting more tokens, pushing the usage metrics to convince investors they're constantly growing, burning the planet and your company's money.

[–] kerryh8er04@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 hours ago

Man, the one thing I was interested in, the decompiling of abandoned software to get old games and software back, is being limited.

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