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10 Reasons To Stop Hating Star Trek: Discovery (No, they're not blind to criticism) (www.youtube.com)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by Stamets@lemmy.world to c/tenforward@lemmy.world
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[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I kinda feel bad for Disco fans. I ain't out there to yuck anyone's yums, but it was such a different kind of show to previous Star Treks, I'm not surprised it didn't land well with many fans. And it's become so commonplace to shit on it (for many valid reasons but also some nasty ones and folks with the latter should fuck right off).

I wore a Star Trek shirt to a wedding and got many compliments, one from a guy who explained his favorite was Discovery, even named his cat after Michael, he felt it was really important to him and asked what I thought about it. I got a battery of polite things to say in this situation, but a more drunken attendee practically lept over to exclaim "Discovery? MAN that one blew chunks!! What were they thinking?? Shoulda been another sci-fi show without the Trek name." and, jeez, read the room!

I guess what I'm saying is, we don't gotta all like it, but Disco fans are Trek fans and we gotta be nice to em, they're here for largely the same reasons we are and, hey, maybe one day they'll go back and learn that the best Trek is Deep Space Nine.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

My main issue with the show is Burnham, so I don't think there's anything they can do to fix it for me unless they kill her off and get a new lead. The show has been going long enough, I'd watch one last season, but I think they need to end it and focus on strange new worlds and more shows like that.

[–] sgibson5150@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

STD lost me early on, but I liked Stamets and Tilly, and Lorca was interesting. I wish they'd've introduced it as new IP rather than calling it a Trek show, but eh. Different strokes. I got my SNW and I'm happy.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's DSC, not STD. Please stick to the naming structure of the shows over the years and either go with DSC (as shown in the show) or DIS. It makes absolutely no sense to call it STD.

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Nice try, Star Trek Discovery producers. You got me to try season 1. Not fooling me again.

If I wanted to watch Star Wars, then I would have watched that instead.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You got me to try season 1

You probably watched Season 1 of TNG though which is just as bad and twice as long. It astounds me how many people are willing to cave after like 13 episodes and say "NAH. GIVING UP. NEVER AGAIN." but were willing to sit through stuff like Code of Honor with TNG in Season 1. I mean no Trek show before SNW ever had a solid first season. Most shows in general don't. Judging it based off of that is just silly.

[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

ENT at least wanted to be a Star Trek show. Disco banked on the IP for nostalgia and then did nothing nostalgic with it.

I'm fine with people liking Disco or whatever but it's like, the show only got good after they went a billion years into the future and were allowed to thrive in their own sandbox, rather than being tied down in the TOS era.

I would have immediately enjoyed it more if they had made it a post-Nemesis starting point. It would have been more interesting to check in on the Terran Rebellion than it was to check in on the Empire. All that stuff was gross.

Strange New Worlds takes all the new aesthetics established by Disco and actually applies a Star Trek formula to it, and I'm much happier with that show. It wants to be where it is, and it wants to be what it's doing. Intent and planning are everything with media. Disco lacked in both early on, but I'm glad it pivoted.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm amazed with how factually written this comment is when literally everything in it is based off of opinion and personal takes.

[–] kellyaster@kbin.social -1 points 9 months ago

I get the criticism about production, plot, and dialogue decisions. I mean, I agree on quite a few of them. But a good chunk of the detractors are on the hate bandwagon because they just can't stand women/minorities getting representation, and those dumbfucks need to GTFO. It's Trek, for fuck's sake. Yeah, Discovery is different, but I still dig the show.

[–] noxy@yiffit.net -1 points 9 months ago

I just finished season 4 tonight. It's great. Not perfect, but no Trek ever was. It's also delightfully full of queer people!

Can't wait for season 5!